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re: Americans think they need to earn $233,000 to live comfortably, and $483,000 to be rich

Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11169 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:46 pm to
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You make 200k per year and you financed a roof replacement? What is your interest rate?


Like 3%

Why take money out of an account earning a higher interest to pay something off rather than finance?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74885 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:48 pm to
true true.

believe it or not i’ve also ran into some folks in our generation who refuse to eat leftovers. which not only makes cooking 1 serving meals more expensive but also leads to waste.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41114 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Why take money out of an account earning a higher interest to pay something off rather than finance?


You tell us. You bragged the other day about paying down your 0% interest student loans with no payments due for 3 years

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 1:55 pm to
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Looks like I need to really look at both of our monthly statements and figure where I’m blowing it.


I did this a few years ago with my wife, we make about 160k and our monthly bills are only 3500-4000. Ended up determining we were wasting 2-3k a month, a lot on Amazon and eating out. Now all that goes to either savings or retirement. Wife and I each have an “allowance” of money we can waste but it isn’t 2-3k a month. Has worked great.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74885 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:00 pm to
we do this every year. we call it Spring Cleaning. We look at every single expense to our bank account in the month of January and February. From there we call around looking for better prices / deals / combos on cell service, internet, cable, insurance, etc etc. Trying to carve out $100-200/month in savings where it makes sense. Not just consistently allowing these companies to up the prices and it go unnoticed.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12863 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:01 pm to
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The dollar really doesn’t go as far as it used to.


I’ve got to say, my wife and I both make what I consider to be a lot of money. We have no kids, but live in a pretty expensive area. Money definitely does not go as far as it did!

If you have kids and a household income if $200k in the South, you will certainly be fine. However, if you want to travel or do things, you won’t be able to save much money.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102781 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Yup, they’re called kids.


Parents today have a problem saying “no” to their kids. They don’t have to be as expensive as most make it

Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80695 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:04 pm to
Define "Live Comfortably"
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19239 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:08 pm to
This thread is batshit insane. As family of 4, I’d say $140k to be comfortable. This is in DFW. We bring in more than that and considers ourselves borderline rich.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41114 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:10 pm to
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If you have kids and a household income if $200k in the South, you will certainly be fine. However, if you want to travel or do things, you won’t be able to save much money.


How?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42309 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:12 pm to
You’re probably referring to me as one of the batshit insane posters. I don’t need to clarify but I want to.

I live comfortably. In the eyes of others, lavishly. I put away over 10% of my salary into my company 401K and still contribute to a personal stock fund, kids investment funds, Roth ira’s, and have a nice amount directly in a savings account in case shite hits the fan and we need to cover household expenses.

All I was saying was trying to say is that someone making $200K as a household with a mortgage in a decent area, car notes, and kids isn’t netting $7K a month after paying for everything.
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41114 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:14 pm to
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All I was saying was trying to say is that someone making $200K as a household with a mortgage in a decent area, car notes, and kids isn’t netting $7K a month after paying for everything.


No one said they did.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:15 pm to
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I live comfortably. In the eyes of others, lavishly. I put away over 10% of my salary into my company 401K and still contribute to a personal stock fund, kids investment funds, Roth ira’s,


After all of this, what’s the take home per month? Setting aside the SHTF account for a minute.

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42309 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:16 pm to
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No one said they did.


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200k income (probably more because I doubt both him and his wife make exactly 100k each)

25% effective tax rate - 50k

66k in bills he mentioned in his post

200k - 50k - 66k = 84k

It’s rough math but I bet I’m pretty close.


quote:

by JohnnyKilroy


Bruh, you did.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83035 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:19 pm to
I 100% agree it’s super fascinating. People’s grocery habit in general are something I’ve always been fascinated with.

But yeah. As someone who only ever has what I’m cooking this week and leftovers less than 3 days old in my fridge (besides obviously condiments, butter, etc), I’m always taken aback when someone tells me to put something in the fridge and I open it and there’s not a single blank space. It overwhelms me - what’s in the back? Truly though these specific people I am thinking of IRL aren’t necessarily stocked with expired food they were too lazy to clean. This is just the result of major overshopping every single week, which is mind blowing.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:19 pm to
What if you make 176K and have no debt?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41114 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:20 pm to
Damn. Can’t do basic math OR read.

He only gave out some of his bills, which added up to that 66000 per year number. The conversation was never that his total yearly spend was 66k.

He said he didn’t have much to play with after those bills he listed, plus other things like food/hobbies/kids clothes etc.

The counter was that he had about 7k to cover those additional items and whatever else his heart desired. 84k a year to spend on food/misc items/hobbies and savings is a shitload of money. Most families don’t even gross that amount.

This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12863 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:20 pm to
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How?


A lot of depends on how you want to live.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:21 pm to
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kayak bruh


Alcohol
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42309 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 2:21 pm to
Enough to cover all credit cards (we generally don’t use cash or debit cards), tuition, and bills.

After that not much. I feel like I’m very much over sharing about myself here
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