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re: America needs carpenters and plumbers. Gen Z doesn't seem interested
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:45 pm to GetCocky11
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:45 pm to GetCocky11
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As he goes home to his nice house and big bank account every day.
How did you think he get that big home and bank account? Would you want all that stress and working 60hrs a week? You can’t be envy of another person’s success without acknowledging their hard work.
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
When your plumber shows up to fix a leak in 50 years.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:49 pm to Cosmo
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Now you have to be willing to work in a greasy hot garage but thats a 6 figure job with minimal investment
He probably also has to supply most/all of his own hand tools and the chest.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
Gen Z will never work that hard. Carpenters and plumbers will become scarce, as will farmers and factory workers.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
This has been my soapbox for a while and won’t regurgitate it all here.
But it’s a labor market failure that the trades are looked down on, with the money to be made doing it. Especially if you get your own outfit eventually.
But it’s a labor market failure that the trades are looked down on, with the money to be made doing it. Especially if you get your own outfit eventually.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
We want them to go into body breaking professions without affordable healthcare options. Wtf do you expect?
Congrats on Gen Z for thinking strategically about their long term health and not some asinine subservience to the generation prone to dying at 55 or whatever.
Congrats on Gen Z for thinking strategically about their long term health and not some asinine subservience to the generation prone to dying at 55 or whatever.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
They are too busy on Twitch and playing video games.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:01 pm to Locoguan0
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Most HS's do not offer technical training anymore.
This is actually incorrect. Louisiana has had the Jumpstart program for about 10 years now. The problem is, we still try to keep them in HS for 4 years. If we truly want to jump start them, send them to trade school at 16. It’s all about MFP money though.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:03 pm to Cosmo
My brother is a tech at a car dealership, works in an AC'ed shop, and makes around $90k/year with room to grow still. He started out doing oil changes and servicing their used cars and trade ins, then was quickly sent to schooling on the dealership's dime. That's a pretty respectable living if you ask me.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:04 pm to TejasHorn
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But it’s a labor market failure that the trades are looked down on, with the money to be made doing it.
There’s really not THAT much money to be made.
Yes it surely beats flipping burgers or bagging groceries but you’re looking at like 50-60k per year for long, physical hours in the elements. The median US wage is higher than that.
People seem to have this impression that making 80-100k as a tradesman is normal or easily achievable. It’s not. For every six figure tradesman there’s probably 20 making half that.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:05 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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He probably also has to supply most/all of his own hand tools and the chest.
He probably has less invested in that box and tools than it cost for a semester at LSU.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:07 pm to bikerack
Worked in the education industry training skilled tradesman for a decade. It’s amazing how much money there is available to train them and how few people actually want it.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:13 pm to DesScorp
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:14 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:23 pm to RLDSC FAN
Gen Z is too busy trying to figure out what sex or gender they are.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:24 pm to bikerack
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I tell every high schooler I talk to that if they don't know what they want to do, consider going to trade school, become an apprentice and work your butt off...the master electrician will have to leave their company to someone...
And did you tell them about being on disability at 45 from a broken body and no other skills than a trade?
The stories about people in the trades on here are the exception and not the norm.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:25 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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There’s really not THAT much money to be made.
Yes it surely beats flipping burgers or bagging groceries but you’re looking at like 50-60k per year for long, physical hours in the elements. The median US wage is higher than that.
People seem to have this impression that making 80-100k as a tradesman is normal or easily achievable. It’s not. For every six figure tradesman there’s probably 20 making half that.
And your body is busted. I've rarely seen a welder that looked healthy, not that I've seen many, but they're usually not a picture of good health.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:28 pm to TejasHorn
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But it’s a labor market failure that the trades are looked down on, with the money to be made doing it. Especially if you get your own outfit eventually.
99.9% don't or don't have the skills to.
Its a fantasy.
It's low-paid, in tough conditions, a niche skill, bad for your body and health, and has little income potential long-term.
We need tradesmen but we need to stop acting like it's a hidden gem profession. It's not.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:31 pm to Odysseus32
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My point is, and I fully understand this is anecdotal, but for a lot of these unions you're fighting time, hoops, and nepotism. And these articles don't make it clear that you're talking about a half year process even if you start at the right time. And I know college is a 4 year process, but if you get waitlisted, and 6 months turns into 12-18, you start to wonder what the value is, particularly if you need work and insurance right then and there.
This was my experience as well. The trades make the barrier to entry really difficult. Almost like you are trying to join a secret cult or some shite.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 5:44 pm to RLDSC FAN
crazy arse thought ... y'all might want to reconsider your ideas on not allowing folks from Central and South America into the country
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