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re: Amazon to roll out electric vans to fight climate change
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:08 pm to X123F45
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:08 pm to X123F45
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They are 100% worse.
How so? You have 10 minutes to google the shite out of it and find a bunch of questionable "scientific articles" to base your argument off of. Go!
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:09 pm to Chucktown_Badger
I know right!! I dont get some people's insistence on defending fossil fuels and rejecting any attempt at helping the environment. I mean what vested interest do some of you have in fossil fuel production? If an affordable, electric vehicle comes out that looks like a regular car, has the same mileage range and, as a plus, is better for the environment than why wouldn't you promote this
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:09 pm to X123F45
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They are 100% worse.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:09 pm to crewdepoo
No by leading scientists throughout the world.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:10 pm to TejasHorn
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which will make the company carbon neutral by 2040
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:10 pm to Martini
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I don’t even know what this means.
It means you wouldn't fire them because you can't. Jeff Bezos >>>>>>>>> Martini.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:10 pm to TejasHorn
I'm not trying to sound racist by asking this question, but have you ever seen a white person driving those vans?
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just something that jumped out at me.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just something that jumped out at me.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:12 pm to Brazos
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No by leading scientists throughout the world.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:14 pm to TejasHorn
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TejasHorn
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Longhorn Fan
I hear the Austin division of Amazon has complained about the AC on these vans.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:15 pm to Jester
I don't have to google anything.
The mining of those rare minerals is bad for the environment.
The refining of those minerals in questionable places pollutes an ungodly amount.
Shipping those refined metals.
Manufacturing those refined metals into batteries.
Energy production from fossil fuels to keep them going.
Step #2 is the one that ruins their current viability as a Green vehicle. The rest of the characteristics they share with ICE powered vehicles.
The mining of those rare minerals is bad for the environment.
The refining of those minerals in questionable places pollutes an ungodly amount.
Shipping those refined metals.
Manufacturing those refined metals into batteries.
Energy production from fossil fuels to keep them going.
Step #2 is the one that ruins their current viability as a Green vehicle. The rest of the characteristics they share with ICE powered vehicles.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:16 pm to Giantkiller
Yep, my amazon driver (no pics) is a good looking girl. Maybe OT 6.9
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:16 pm to HempHead
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I'm just saying that the manufacturing elements, particularly of lithium, are more intensive than a regular combustion engine.
Lithium keeps being brought up but the cost and energy requirements to produce lithium carbonate have dropped significantly in the last few years. Shifting more to brine-based recovery from hard rock recovery has precipitated (pun intended) a lot of this.
The lithium argument is basically outdated at this point.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:16 pm to RJL2
quote:He probably is taking it into account, just like everyone else who bothers to look for information rather than just stopping when they read something that they believe confirms the opinions they already hold.
Hm I wonder how much carbon those lithium mines for batteries make? I guess he isn't taking that into account.
quote:This chicken-egg argument holds no water, blows my mind that people continue saying this.
What about charging the vans? Isn't most of the energy in the US still from fossil fuels?
quote:It mostly is, just like nearly every public announcement.
Sounds like a bullshite PR move to me.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:17 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Bezos is MEGA af
This is an under appreciated comment.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:17 pm to TejasHorn
The only thing anyone can do to "fight" climate change, is alter the orbit of the earth. And frighteningly there's been a proposed plan for that.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:18 pm to TejasHorn
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which will make the company carbon neutral by 2040.
That is a ridiculous statement.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:19 pm to Obtuse1
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The lithium argument is basically outdated at this point.
TIL. Did not know that several advancements had been made.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:20 pm to eScott
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The only thing anyone can do to "fight" climate change, is alter the orbit of the earth. And frighteningly there's been a proposed plan for that.
This is just patently false.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:20 pm to eScott
Eh... A smidge farther would be alright.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:20 pm to Jester
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