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Amazon has been giving cops Ring doorbell data without user consent

Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:55 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25365 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:55 am
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Amazon finally admits giving cops Ring doorbell data without user consent

Amazon Ring gave police data without user consent 11 times so far in 2022.

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More than 10 million people rely on Ring video doorbells to monitor what's happening directly outside the front doors of their homes. The popularity of the technology has raised a question that concerns privacy advocates: Should police have access to Ring video doorbell recordings without first gaining user consent?

Ring recently revealed how often the answer to that question has been yes. The Amazon company responded to an inquiry from US Senator Ed Markey (D-Mass.), confirming that there have been 11 cases in 2022 where Ring complied with police "emergency" requests. In each case, Ring handed over private recordings, including video and audio, without letting users know that police had access to—and potentially downloaded—their data. This raises many concerns about increased police reliance on private surveillance, a practice that has long gone unregulated.

Ring says it will only "respond immediately to urgent law enforcement requests for information in cases involving imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to any person." Its policy is to review any requests for assistance from police, then make "a good-faith determination whether the request meets the well-known standard, grounded in federal law, that there is imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to any person requiring disclosure of information without delay."
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:57 am to
Looks like 11 cases will be thrown out of court soon.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17020 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:57 am to
There is that good faith BS.

Why is that used so often to allow officers to become shitey people and frick people over?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32830 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:59 am to
ACAB
Posted by swolverine
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:01 am to
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Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Youngsville
Member since Oct 2007
2532 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:04 am to
Headline sounds pretty bad but it's 0.0000011% of their customer base so I don't know if it's worth a freak out or not
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30263 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:04 am to
Yep, just another reason to limit technology in our homes. Safety? Sure, but I don't trust the agencies that have access to the data. Excuse me, but I'll go without cameras and recording devices throughout my home

Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
12065 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:06 am to
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Headline sounds pretty bad but it's 0.0000011% of their customer base so I don't know if it's worth a freak out or not


Should be 0.0000000%
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3926 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:06 am to
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Amazon has been giving cops Ring doorbell data without user consent




You mean the surveillance state has joined forces with the police state to infringe on your rights?


:shocked face:
Posted by Corporal Beavis
Member since Aug 2013
1207 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:07 am to
Get rid of recording doorbells and bring back Ding Dong Ditching

This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 8:21 am
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39146 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:11 am to
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Ding Dong Ditching
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:12 am to
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Looks like 11 cases will be thrown out of court soon.


Why would that be?

The access isn’t illegal.
Posted by StonewallJack
Member since Apr 2008
688 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:14 am to
My Privacy has been violated!! I'm going to call the cops!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68302 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:24 am to
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Should Amazon have access to Ring video doorbell recordings without first gaining user consent?
I'll ask Alexa.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:27 am to
I despise all things Amazon. Between my wife's spending sprees to Alexa asking kids if they want to order crap to this dumb shite. frick Amazon.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:28 am to
shite like this is why I don’t like “smart” devices for the house outside of entertainment.

Smart thermostat? Someone can remotely set your in house temperature for whatever reasons.

Smart locks? Someone can let themselves in if the system gets compromised.

Smart mics / cameras? Basically bugs left in plain sight.


I don’t want a lot of these simply because I don’t trust people nor do I trust software to stay uncompromised.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45140 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:29 am to
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Ring handed over private recordings, including video and audio, without letting users know that police had access to—and potentially downloaded—their data.


That has to be illegal
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18911 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:30 am to
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recording devices throughout my home


Do Y'all have cellphones?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:30 am to
My guess is that Amazon hid shite deep in the terms of service that no one ever read giving them the rights to do this.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
49695 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:35 am to
Person of Interest coming to life.
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