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Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:01 pm to Wally Sparks
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If ATL gets it, it's likely going to the Gulch.
I thought that there were filings with the state last month for some major development there?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:03 pm to Buckeye Backer
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These goddam dots are ONLY white.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:06 pm to Buckeye Backer
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With Ohio State anchoring over 60,000 highly educated students for a potential workforce.
The schools in metro Atlanta that I listed have over 150,000 students.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:11 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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quote: Where's Cleveland?
In Ohio, but that's not important right now.
I laughed much harder at this than I probably should have.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:11 pm to Wildcat In Germany
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I thought that there were filings with the state last month for some major development there?
There was. Looks like that they’ll be able to grease the skids and get it ready to go for construction if Atlanta is selected.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:12 pm to Buckeye Backer
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Columbus ranks 5th in the country to Fortune 500 companies
I'd like to see some proof of this.
Just off the top of my head, I would think New York, Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, Dallas, and Houston would all have a lot more than Columbus.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:13 pm to GetCocky11
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I think it'll be either Dallas, Atlanta, or Boston.
Add DC area to that list and I think that's the finalists.
Chicago and Pittsburgh probably have an outside shot as well.
Each has its drawbacks:
Chicago - state and local government, tax environment
Pittsburgh - not a huge metro area with a major int'l airport
Dallas - might be a tad difficult to attract top tier tech talent to Dallas, public trans isn't as good as some of the other options, not a ton of top tier schools nearby compared to peers
Atlanta - traffic
DC - cost of living, traffic
Boston - cost of living, space, Logan isn't quite the hub that Hartsfield, DFW, O'Hare, etc. are
It'll be what Amazon can live with.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:15 pm to YoungManOldMan
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What is this...code for Fairfax? On what land is something like this going to be built.
Nah, most likely Loudoun County which is already home to 70% of the worlds Internet traffic.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:19 pm to Wildcat In Germany
Am I the only one that doesn't totally get the "educated work force" criteria? Or rather, I don't see why they should put a huge emphasis on it?
You're frickin Amazon. You could hire anyone in the world from any city or University and move them to whatever HQ you want. You want MIT kids doing unpaid internships? Ok, set something up with MIT, make the kids pay their own way to get there...it's not like they will say "no thanks, that's a little too far for me to come work with you and add that to my resume."
Amazon can "create" an educated work force wherever they decide to open up. UW has a fantastic medical school but its not some world renowned University.
You're frickin Amazon. You could hire anyone in the world from any city or University and move them to whatever HQ you want. You want MIT kids doing unpaid internships? Ok, set something up with MIT, make the kids pay their own way to get there...it's not like they will say "no thanks, that's a little too far for me to come work with you and add that to my resume."
Amazon can "create" an educated work force wherever they decide to open up. UW has a fantastic medical school but its not some world renowned University.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:22 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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m I the only one that doesn't totally get the "educated work force" criteria? Or rather, I don't see why they should put a huge emphasis on it?
You're frickin Amazon. You could hire anyone in the world from any city or University and move them to whatever HQ you want. You want MIT kids doing unpaid internships? Ok, set something up with MIT, make the kids pay their own way to get there...it's not like they will say "no thanks, that's a little too far for me to come work with you and add that to my resume."
Amazon can "create" an educated work force wherever they decide to open up. UW has a fantastic medical school but its not some world renowned University.
Amazon's work force is amazingly good, but they do sometimes lose people to Google or Facebook or starts ups and the like for top tier tech talent and to consulting or investment banking for top tier business strategy talent because of location. I saw it a bit when I was doing recruiting out of grad school - people in the prime of their careers want to be a little closer to family and friends than Seattle.
I've also lived out there, and while it's a great place to live, being so far from family and friends is a big drawback. It's one of the primary reasons I moved.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:22 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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educated work force wherever they decide to open up
The most educated work forces, and most big tech as a result, are in the liberal cities (San Fran, Austin, Seattle, Boston, Denver/Boulder). There is no amount of money you could pay me to live and work somewhere like Atlanta or Dallas, and I guarantee the HQ won't end up there
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:31 pm to HippieTiger
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The most educated work forces, and most big tech as a result, are in the liberal cities (San Fran, Austin, Seattle, Boston, Denver/Boulder). There is no amount of money you could pay me to live and work somewhere like Atlanta or Dallas, and I guarantee the HQ won't end up there
In the same vein, I guarantee Denver isn't getting it. Amazon will not have two western HQs. Not happening.
Atlanta and Dallas are both plenty big and plenty diverse enough to draw what Amazon wants to draw.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:32 pm to HippieTiger
Don't underestimate the real estate needs for something this big. I've got a good friend who works in corporate real estate here in the city (his company sells entire skyscrapers) and the plans being put forth to lure Amazon are absolutely enormous. And of course how willing the city and state is to play ball will be a huge factor. All things that cannot be known when arguing things like airport and universities.
(And while I'm sure a large airport is important, this is a corporate office, not a shipping center...so cargo is likely irrelevant)
(And while I'm sure a large airport is important, this is a corporate office, not a shipping center...so cargo is likely irrelevant)
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:33 pm to HippieTiger
Atlanta has a much more diverse educated workforce than those cities. Does any city have a better educated AA workforce than Atlanta?
I guarantee that’s a factor for Amazon.
Atlanta is a real contender.
I guarantee that’s a factor for Amazon.
Atlanta is a real contender.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:35 pm to HippieTiger
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The most educated work forces, and most big tech as a result, are in the liberal cities (San Fran, Austin, Seattle, Boston, Denver/Boulder). There is no amount of money you could pay me to live and work somewhere like Atlanta or Dallas, and I guarantee the HQ won't end up there
Key Facts About Higher Ed in the Atlanta Region
-57 colleges and universities
-Almost 1,800 distinct programs of study at the associate’s, bachelor’s, master’s, doctorate and professional levels
-More than 250,000 students enrolled each year
-7th in student enrollment among America’s largest urban areas1
-6th in annual college graduates (at the bachelor's level or higher)1
-Among the top 7 urban centers in number of degrees awarded in fields including engineering, computer sciences, math, physical, biological sciences, health professions, business, arts and theology
-Atlanta is a national leader in attracting college-educated 25-34 year olds, according to the Metro Atlanta Chamber of Commerce
-In the city of Atlanta, 39.9 percent of adults hold at least a bachelor’s degree5, and in metro-Atlanta the figure is 33.3 percent6. The U.S. level is 27.0 percent7.
-A Census Bureau analysis ranked the city of Atlanta 6th among cities nationally in the percent of people 25 and older who have completed bachelor’s degrees
Atlanta Higher Ed
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:37 pm to Wildcat In Germany
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Key Facts About Higher Ed in the Atlanta Region
-57 colleges and universities
First, what defines the “Atlanta Region”.
Second, how high quality are these 57 colleges and universities? How many are community colleges?
I’m actually genuinely curious.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:39 pm to RedRifle
Lord, please not Nashville.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:39 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Don't underestimate the real estate needs for something this big. I've got a good friend who works in corporate real estate here in the city (his company sells entire skyscrapers) and the plans being put forth to lure Amazon are absolutely enormous. And of course how willing the city and state is to play ball will be a huge factor. All things that cannot be known when arguing things like airport and universities.
(And while I'm sure a large airport is important, this is a corporate office, not a shipping center...so cargo is likely irrelevant)
You're right that cargo doesn't mean shite, but they will need a large int'l airport for doing business. That's a big draw for Chicago, Atlanta, DC, and Dallas, and Boston isn't too bad there, either.
The Chicago site I've seen that made the most sense was the site in West Lincoln Park along the river. I've also seen the Tribune site proposed as well.
The Lincoln Park site would be an awesome location for them, but damn, rent in LP and Bucktown would be through the roof.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:41 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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AbuTheMonkey
I thought you had some inside info on this and knew the location?
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