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Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:13 pm to RedRifle
I would put my money on Raleigh, NC. There are multiple colleges in the area including Duke, UNC, Wake Forest, and NC State. North Carolina is the fastest growing state in the nation overall 9th in population with alot of recent business growth. I also think that politics will come into play with this ,because Bezos who is an ultra lib would want to turn NC into a blue state ,and it is not too far off.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:35 pm to RedRifle
Boston, NOVA or my dark horse pick Raleigh
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:35 pm to dewster
You're arguing with a troll.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:39 pm to dewster
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Toronto, Chicago, Boston, and Pittsburgh all have real winters. That's a big drawback IMO.
Honest question -why is that a “big drawback”?
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:39 pm to RedRifle
It'd be pretty great if they picked us. The majority of places on that list are already pretty well known, this would have a big impact on Columbus. Not to mention the value of my house would jump, I'd be down for that.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:40 pm to dewster
If i were a betting man, I’d say Boston
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:42 pm to tiger perry
I’m sure Vegas has lines on it. 
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:44 pm to RedRifle
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Nope. It’s either going to be DC or Northern Virginia.
If the true nature of the new facility is data, then that's a good place to hop on the big fiber exchange there.
If the nature of the facility is physical distribution, where things like rail, interstate, cargo on planes, and sea ports are important, it is Atlanta.
Amazon already has a bunch of data center shite in Ashburn's data center alley in NoVa, I don't see why they would need another billion dollar facility there.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:44 pm to AbitaFan08
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I’m sure Vegas has lines on it.
They do, and Atlanta is the vegas leader.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:45 pm to deeprig9
Those were pretty much my criteria as well.
Research / data science shite: Boston
Data center: NOVA
Distribution: went with Raleigh due to cheap real estate, but Atlanta makes sense
Research / data science shite: Boston
Data center: NOVA
Distribution: went with Raleigh due to cheap real estate, but Atlanta makes sense
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:52 pm to RedRifle
It'll either be Raleigh or Austin.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:53 pm to deeprig9
That doesn’t surprise me at all
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:54 pm to truthbetold
Instead of speculating, it's probably worth posting what Amazon is actually looking for.
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1. Site/building. Amazon is looking for existing buildings of at least 500,000 square feet and total site space of up to 8 million sq ft. It would like the site to be within 30 miles of a population center and within 45 minutes of an international airport. It prefers metro areas with more than 1 million people. Its Seattle headquarters includes 33 buildings totaling 8.1 million sq ft.
2. Capital and operating costs. Amazon is prioritizing “stable and business-friendly regulations and tax structure” in its considerations. The company is seeking out incentives from state and local governments “to offset initial capital outlay and ongoing operational costs.” At its Seattle headquarters, Amazon says it invested $3.7 billion in buildings and infrastructure from 2010 to 2017, and spent another $1.4 billion on utilities and maintenance.
3. Incentives. The company is asking applicants to outline the specific types of incentives they could offer, such as tax credits and relocation grants, as well calculations on the amount of total incentives that could be provided. “The initial and ongoing cost of doing business are critical decision drivers,” the RFP states.
4. Labor force. Hiring 50,000 skilled workers is no easy task, and Amazon wants to make sure its new headquarters is in an area with a readily available pool of talent. The company is prioritizing sites with a “strong university system.” It’s asked cities to provide a list of universities and community colleges with “relevant degrees” plus the number of students to graduate with those degrees over the past three years. Amazon also wants information on computer-science programs in the local and regional K-12 education system.
5. Logistics. Amazon is first and foremost a master of logistics, so it should come as no surprise that the company cares a lot about transportation. Amazon wants on-site access to mass transit—train, subway, or bus—and to be no more than one or two miles from major highways and connecting roads. It wants to be within 45 minutes of an international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, the San Francisco Bay area, and Washington DC. The company is also asking applicants to identify “all transit options, including bike lanes and pedestrian access” for the proposed site and to rank traffic congestion during peak commuting hours.
6. Time to operations. To begin construction as soon as possible, Amazon wants an outline of the permitting process and approximate timetable ahead of “Phase 1” of the building process—the first 500,000 to 1 million sq ft, for an investment of $300 million to $600 million.
7. Cultural community fit. Like any tech company, Amazon cares about “culture fit.” It defines this as a diverse population, strong higher-education system, and local government that is “eager and willing to work with the company.” Amazon is asking cities to “demonstrate characteristics of this” in their responses. “We encourage testimonials from other large companies,” it adds.
8. Community/quality of life. The new headquarters should be in a place where people want to live. Amazon is interested in daily living and recreational opportunities for people in each proposed metro area. It is also requesting information about housing prices and availability, general cost of living, and crime statistics.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:07 pm to shspanthers
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Lord, please not Nashville.
Well, there are thousands of condos that need to be filled. But I agree, I hope it isn't Nashville.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:22 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Amazon's work force is amazingly good
Amazon grinds the frick out of their employees.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:31 pm to RedRifle
“Mayor of Denver, will you accept this rose??”
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:51 pm to Stingy
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Well, there are thousands of condos that need to be filled. But I agree, I hope it isn't Nashville.
I've been following Nashville real estate for a while now, as it's someplace I'd consider if I leave Chicago, and the condo prices in those new buildings are crazy...rivaling the prime neighborhoods and buildings in the downtown Chicago area (not that I'd ever live downtown here, but for comparison purposes).
2 bed/2 bath Chicago: LINK $500,000
2 bed/2 bath Nashville: LINK $559,000
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:54 pm to dewster
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Toronto, Chicago, Boston, and Pittsburgh all have real winters. That's a big drawback IMO.
For sure, but honestly, I'd take Chicago's weather over Seattle's, and that's from someone who has lived both places. The Seattle winters are long, dark, wet, and cold.
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Chicago is a good choice. Relatively affordable for a big city. It has big airports, good recruiting ground, and it is big enough to absorb that size of company.
Definitely, and it's why I think Chicago would be a slam dunk home run for this thing if the city and state fiscal picture wasn't so damn bleak and if local political shenanigans didn't scare them away. Chicago also has great public transportation, is probably the #1 logistics hub in America, and also has several really good sites proposed (one on the Chicago River in West Lincoln Park, another in the old Tribune building right on the river, and a third in South Loop near Soldier Field). It fills every criteria very well, but the government situation is a shitshow, so most I know here are pessimistic about the chances.
Still, there are 36 F500 companies in Illinois right now, and the great majority of those are in the Chicago suburbs and city, and even a lot of the big dogs in the suburbs are starting to move back to the city (like McDonald's). Boeing is right downtown. Google's has a huge new facility in West Loop that is pretty sweet.
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