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re: Amazon chooses 20 finalists for its new headquarters

Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:57 pm to
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Definitely, and it's why I think Chicago would be a slam dunk home run for this thing if the city and state fiscal picture wasn't so damn bleak and if local political shenanigans didn't scare them away. Chicago also has great public transportation, is probably the #1 logistics hub in America, and also has several really good sites proposed (one on the Chicago River in West Lincoln Park, another in the old Tribune building right on the river, and a third in South Loop near Soldier Field). It fills every criteria very well, but the government situation is a shitshow, so most I know here are pessimistic about the chances. Still, there are 36 F500 companies in Illinois right now, and the great majority of those are in the Chicago suburbs and city, and even a lot of the big dogs in the suburbs are starting to move back to the city (like McDonald's). Boeing is right downtown. Google's has a huge new facility in West Loop that is pretty sweet.


But, it's a much longer drive to the mountains, so that's going to hurt us.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6062 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:23 pm to
Are you sure there's no typos?

I didn't see Mexico City
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:50 pm to
For Atlanta...

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1. Site/building. Amazon is looking for existing buildings of at least 500,000 square feet and total site space of up to 8 million sq ft. It would like the site to be within 30 miles of a population center and within 45 minutes of an international airport. It prefers metro areas with more than 1 million people.


The Gulch could more than provide the space needed, downtown. Straight shot to the worlds busiest airport.

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2. Capital and operating costs. Amazon is prioritizing “stable and business-friendly regulations and tax structure” in its considerations.


Atlanta is extremely business friendly, housing multiple Fortune 500 companies.

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ncentives. The company is asking applicants to outline the specific types of incentives they could offer, such as tax credits and relocation grants, as well calculations on the amount of total incentives that could be provided.


Georgia is very generous with all of that. See the film industry.

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4. Labor force. Hiring 50,000 skilled workers is no easy task, and Amazon wants to make sure its new headquarters is in an area with a readily available pool of talent. The company is prioritizing sites with a “strong university system.” It’s asked cities to provide a list of universities and community colleges with “relevant degrees” plus the number of students to graduate with those degrees over the past three years.


Emory, Georgia Tech, Georgia State, Kennesaw State, Spelman, Morehouse...

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5. Logistics. Amazon is first and foremost a master of logistics, so it should come as no surprise that the company cares a lot about transportation. Amazon wants on-site access to mass transit—train, subway, or bus—and to be no more than one or two miles from major highways and connecting roads. It wants to be within 45 minutes of an international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, the San Francisco Bay area, and Washington DC. The company is also asking applicants to identify “all transit options, including bike lanes and pedestrian access” for the proposed site and to rank traffic congestion during peak commuting hours.


Check. MARTA could use some improvement, but apparently that's part of the pitch.

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6. Time to operations. To begin construction as soon as possible, Amazon wants an outline of the permitting process and approximate timetable ahead of “Phase 1” of the building process—the first 500,000 to 1 million sq ft, for an investment of $300 million to $600 million.


Apparently already in the works.

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7. Cultural community fit. Like any tech company, Amazon cares about “culture fit.” It defines this as a diverse population, strong higher-education system, and local government that is “eager and willing to work with the company.” Amazon is asking cities to “demonstrate characteristics of this” in their responses. “We encourage testimonials from other large companies,” it adds.



Extremely culturally diverse and well educated.

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8. Community/quality of life. The new headquarters should be in a place where people want to live. Amazon is interested in daily living and recreational opportunities for people in each proposed metro area. It is also requesting information about housing prices and availability, general cost of living, and crime statistics


One of the most affordable major cities. Constantly growing and diversifying.

Sounds like Atlanta is a great fit.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:58 pm to
Isnt fedex based in atlanta?
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:00 pm to
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Isnt fedex based in atlanta?



Negative.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80655 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:33 pm to
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So no BR? I’m shocked


Yep. Leaving Baton Rouge off the list threw me for a loop.
Posted by cypressbrake3
Member since Oct 2014
3681 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:41 pm to
Amazon is going to add to the finalist list in the end.

Jackson, MS will be added and will win it all in a shocker.

It will change Mississippi forever.

I'm very seldom wrong on these corporate maneuvers, so watch and see.



This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 7:43 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Amazon's work force is amazingly good


Amazon grinds the frick out of their employees.


Eh, that's overblown. The NYT hit piece a few years back has that in everyone's mind, but I don't think they're any better or worse than the other tech giants. You don't get to work at Facebook or Google if you aren't a pretty driven person, either. I've known quite a few people who've worked at corporate in Seattle over the years, and I don't think it's much different than any other top tier firm in most industries, including tech.

Now, they work the dog crap out of their delivery center people relative to the other opportunities that many of those folks might have. That I'll agree with, BUT they also pay commensurate to the work.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2197 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:15 pm to
This dude here loves some Atlanta. Atlanta isn't that cool and won't get the headquarters but glad you enjoy it so much
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:20 pm to
I hope they choose Toronto for a trump twitter melt.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:23 pm to
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This dude here loves some Atlanta. Atlanta isn't that cool and won't get the headquarters but glad you enjoy it so much


It has a much better chance than Denver, and Vegas seems to agree with that. It's their #1 choice.

More than half the candidates are in states that border the Atlantic Ocean.

Only 2 cities west of I-35 made the final cut, and it's pretty clear HQ2 isn't going there.

Columbus, LA, Indianapolis, and Denver have no shot. Nashville has a slighter better than 0 shot.

This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 10:27 pm
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2197 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:44 pm to
I'll bump a thread or two for shits and gigs when it's officially Boston
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:48 pm to
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I'll bump a thread or two for shits and gigs when it's officially Boston


I have repeatedly stated in both this thread and earlier threads that I have heard from my friends and contacts at Amazon in Seattle that Boston is the most likely destination.

That doesn't mean that Atlanta isn't a better option than Denver, because it definitely is.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24831 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:50 pm to
Stop beating around the bush and announce that it’s Dallas already.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2197 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:04 pm to
Denver > Atlanta and it isn't really close unless you prefer overrun, crime ridden cities with fewer and not as good outdoor amenities
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32702 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:16 am to
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There is no amount of money you could pay me to live and work somewhere like Atlanta


bullshite.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:42 am to
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There is no amount of money you could pay me to live and work somewhere like Atlanta


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bullshite.



I laughed at that, too.

The Atlanta bashing on this board is funny. Atlanta is a great place to live and work.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6015 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:43 am to
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Dallas will get it.


Grapevine...book it. My home value is about to shoot through the roof.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:47 am to
Dallas
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
3025 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:41 am to
No one will be surprised if it’s Boston and that also won’t prove you are correct about Atlanta.
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