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Am I legally obligated to care for the device you used to boot my car?
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:40 pm
In New Orleans (and I'm guessing other places) a lot of private parking lots now have a system of booting illegally parked vehicles, where they allow you to pay the fine by phone upon return and they will remotely release the boot. There's little kiosks at the exit where you are presumably supposed to attach the boot on your way out. I think the idea is that it gets locked back in there.
To be clear, I understand the legal/logical/moral rationale behind allowing a private property owner to disable the vehicle of someone trespassing thereon, such that they have to pay a fee to have their property released -- booting.
What I don't get is, how the trespasser would then have a legal obligation to in any way properly take care of the device used to disable that vehicle, if the property owner or a representative is not present when it is removed. If the person booted, just tosses the boot aside after getting it removed, does the property owner have further recourse against the person booted if something happens to the boot because they didn't properly place it on the kiosk? Under what legal or moral theory?
To be clear, I understand the legal/logical/moral rationale behind allowing a private property owner to disable the vehicle of someone trespassing thereon, such that they have to pay a fee to have their property released -- booting.
What I don't get is, how the trespasser would then have a legal obligation to in any way properly take care of the device used to disable that vehicle, if the property owner or a representative is not present when it is removed. If the person booted, just tosses the boot aside after getting it removed, does the property owner have further recourse against the person booted if something happens to the boot because they didn't properly place it on the kiosk? Under what legal or moral theory?
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:42 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Damage to property? And they have you CC number from when you paid the fine to release device?
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:42 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I understand the legal/logical/moral rationale behind allowing a private property owner to disable the vehicle of someone trespassing thereon, such that they have to pay a fee to have their property released -- booting.
Yeah frick all that.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:43 pm to tigeraddict
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Damage to property?
He isn't saying you should damage the property. He is saying why is it your responsibility to return the boot to a certain location rather than just leave it on the ground in the parking lot.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I bet they have terms and conditions by which they will charge your credit card again if the boot is not returned to the kiosk.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
So you admit you already broke the law and parked illegally, but now you want commit not serious crimes like theft and destruction of property?
I hope you get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, you fricking POS criminal scumbag
I hope you get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, you fricking POS criminal scumbag
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:44 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Be a good Samaritan, give it back.
Take it and hurl it threw city halls front door.
Take it and hurl it threw city halls front door.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:44 pm to tigeraddict
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And they have you CC number from when you paid the fine to release device?
This is why I have an AMEX. Their company policy on charges is basically frick that guy if you protest.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:45 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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they allow you to pay the fine by phone upon return and they will remotely release the boot.
I haven't seen this. Last time I got the car booted was in the French Quarter. We had to wait two hours.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:45 pm to BowlJackson
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I hope you get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, you fricking POS criminal scumbag
Damn, who let the drama queen in here.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:45 pm to tigeraddict
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Damage to property?
My assumption is, the bootee was NOT the person who "damaged the property." He just sets it aside once it is removed from HIS property. How can you create a further obligation on him at that point?
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:46 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:47 pm to Y.A. Tittle
What if you are handicapped and physically can’t return it.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:47 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
My assumption is, the bootee was NOT the person who "damaged the property." He just sets it aside once it is removed from HIS property. How can you create a further obligation on him at that point?
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bet they have terms and conditions by which they will charge your credit card again if the boot is not returned to the kiosk.
Ya gots ta read da fine print
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:47 pm to DemonKA3268
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:49 pm to chryso
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He isn't saying you should damage the property. He is saying why is it your responsibility to return the boot to a certain location rather than just leave it on the ground in the parking lot.
There is a 0% chance I would return it to another location
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Years ago, when NOLA started using private companies to boot vehicles parked on city streets, I had an idea to start a business to use a cutting torch to remove the boots at a fraction of the fees typically charged by the city + business that “installed” the boot.
Cash only, so there’s no record of the transaction or the deed.
Maybe $20 to remove a boot and leave the worthless scrap at the curb.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:50 pm to BowlJackson
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:53 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I’ll just return it if I was you... I’m sure if it’s damaged or lost they will charge how much the boot cost plus what they expected to make off said boot
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