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re: Am I being too picky about a new fence construction? Pics inside.

Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:19 am to
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14791 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:19 am to
The alternating fence, HOA Rule is bullshite. I would rather look at one uniform side, back or front instead of a mix of both.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184513 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:20 am to
quote:

they didn't pull all of the posts out of the ground.


If the posts were cemented below the soil, and could not be removed, they could have least chopped as much of it off as possible with a Sawzall below the soil.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:21 am to
quote:

don't like the alternating fence, but the alternating every other board isn't my favorite either. You can see through them at a slight angle.


How are you supposed to have sex in the hot tub, if every tom, dick, and Harry can see in your fence. I don't like the alternating every board fence.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28115 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:22 am to
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If the posts were cemented below the soil, and could not be removed, they could have least chopped as much of it off as possible with a Sawzall below the soil.
Yeah, I don't know how they go about removing them, but they did another section of fence a few days before (different guys) and there are no broken off posts like that.

I don't know why the guys who came yesterday did that. Certainly doesn't seem acceptable to just break them off like that and leave them sticking out.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20386 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:23 am to
I only read two pages and it seems to have been covered but FYI. I worked for a fence company in college and know of what I speak. In short, this guy saw you coming and lied to you. On top of that, he dropped off two minimum wage idiots who did a shite job. Don't pay a dime. Tell him to tear down his work and leave. Start over with a legit fence builder. Seriously, it is going to be as much work to fix this as to start from scratch and make sure someone digs up and removes the old posts. Be sure they backfill where they dig so it doesn't cause your new posts to lean into the hole. What a mess.
Posted by BasilFawlty
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2014
1356 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:27 am to
I agree, that broken-off post looks like crap. Just lazy, I would guess.

I would also have an issue with the alternating-panel design, but I understand dealing with an HOA as well.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5769 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I don't want to make it easy for someone to climb.


This all day. Also, I've never understood the logic of the other way. I'd rather my house look good from outside the yard then from in the yar when it comes to this.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:28 am to
I just went back to the OP and looked at your pics again...

There's no way I'd pay for that. The spacing on those cross boards is ridiculous. It really looks like he just eyeballed everything from up close... then stepped back at the end and said "frick it... that's close enough"
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20386 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:29 am to
If alternating is HOA, just buy boards and cover your side for consistency. That is an easy Saturday job.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97276 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:29 am to
no kidding. I wouldnt have even to ask if i was being too picky. frick that fence man. That isnt being picky, that's just straight up terrible craftsmanship.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:30 am to
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just buy boards and cover your side for consistency. That is an easy Saturday job.



So pay for the shite work and then spend more time and money to fix the shite work? frick that.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28115 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:34 am to
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no kidding. I wouldnt have even to ask if i was being too picky. frick that fence man. That isnt being picky, that's just straight up terrible craftsmanship.
See, that's why I ask. I know nothing about putting up a fence. I don't know what is considered minor yet acceptable imperfections and what is a shoddy job.

Now I know this isn't acceptable.

And I'm gonna have to whoop somebody's arse. Just kidding.

By the way... this guy wanted money up front and I told him no. He said it's because people have stiffed him in the past. Well, if he does work like this then I see why people refused to pay him.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:40 am to
Um, every man on the planet should be able to do their own privacy fence.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:41 am to
Whoever installed that fence did an awful job
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184513 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:42 am to
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Um, every man on the planet should be able to do their own privacy fence.



Or some men know the value of their time.

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179885 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:43 am to
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every man on the planet should be able to do their own privacy fence.


maybe but then i'd end up with a fence looking like OP's.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:47 am to
A quick breakdown of pine vs cedar

This is just a google link I found, but read this. It's a Houston fence company(I don't know this company) breaking down why cedar is a better choice for fence pickets. I just can't believe a fence guy would tell you pine was better.

If your paying several thousand dollars you should get a fence that last, not one that will warp.

How much did you pay per linear foot for a pine fence? The going rate for a cedar fence in Texas should be between $15 to $20 a foot.

Last thing, did they use screws on your pine fence. If not and they used nails then that fence will be badly warped in a few years.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9976 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:54 am to
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Thats what I don't get. Why not have it flipped so the ugly side faces neighbors



It's a Houston thing. Gotta go 50/50.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28115 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:57 am to
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How much did you pay per linear foot for a pine fence? The going rate for a cedar fence in Texas should be between $15 to $20 a foot.
Looks like about $17.50 per foot. Material cost I don't know.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 10:59 am
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5372 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:06 am to
Im not saying he screwed you but he screwed you.

I had my fence replaced this spring. I live in the Austin area and things are pretty expensive over here.

I payed $17 a foot for a cedar fence with pressure treated post. You should be able to get a similar deal in Houston. (It was either #1 or #2 grade, dont go below those grades of cedar. It will be full of knot holes if you do. Knot holes rot out and leave holes in the fence)

I dont know what you do now that he used pine, but i would ask for a deal to pull down the pine pickets and replace with cedar because he lied to you.

Eta- that 17 per foot is a total cost of materials and labor. No extra added on. My bill was x number of feet times 17.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 11:15 am
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