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re: Am I being too picky about a new fence construction? Pics inside.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:49 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:49 am to PrimeTime Money
Not where I live.
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:50 am to PrimeTime Money
It appears you used pressure treated boards which in my mind is a mistake. If you did, expect warping and shrinkage with age. The installer doesn't know what he's doing. Sloppy work at best and "don't give a crap" at worst. Looks too, like a crude attempt at a "batten board" construction, which in this case, is not the way construct it. There are accepted standards for rail heights which don't appear to have been followed. What's with the horizontal boards on the ground? A good installer would lay the fence out paying attention to the contours of the landscape. Were it I, the installer would be getting an earful and having a tough time getting me to pay for it.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:53 am to LNCHBOX
I don't like the alternating fence, but the alternating every other board isn't my favorite either. You can see through them at a slight angle.
I think the solution is that everyone should just buy a house on it's own estate with no other houses anywhere around so that you don't need a fence.
I think the solution is that everyone should just buy a house on it's own estate with no other houses anywhere around so that you don't need a fence.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:55 am to PrimeTime Money
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It's like this all over Houston.
I mean that is horrible. Like a first grader came up with the design.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:56 am to dartman
First off, I don't know anything about fences. But the builder said the horizontal boards on the ground are called kickboards or toe boards and it's supposed to prolong the life of the fence because weed eaters won't beat up the pickets.
I asked him about cedar but he said the southern pine is better for this climate and will last longer, so I said do that then.
I was trusting that he knew what he was talking about but maybe not. By the way... he wasn't there yesterday installing the fence. It was two fairly young guys.
I asked him about cedar but he said the southern pine is better for this climate and will last longer, so I said do that then.
I was trusting that he knew what he was talking about but maybe not. By the way... he wasn't there yesterday installing the fence. It was two fairly young guys.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:56 am to PrimeTime Money
Your wooden posts are SYP, so they're going to twist and warp over time. You can't prevent that. Your SYP boards are going to be the same way, eventually.
That said, your contractor should pay more attention to his materials and not use a post that is already bowed. Especially for a gate post. You're gonna have a bitch of a time opening / closing it, not to mention there will be no way to square it up when its built.
Metal posts and cedar boards FTW.
That said, your contractor should pay more attention to his materials and not use a post that is already bowed. Especially for a gate post. You're gonna have a bitch of a time opening / closing it, not to mention there will be no way to square it up when its built.
Metal posts and cedar boards FTW.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:57 am to AwesomeSauce
looks pretty bad baw
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:00 am to PrimeTime Money
Even if that 2x4 is perfectly straight, that is one messed up looking fence.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:02 am to BasilFawlty
quote:If true, that sucks. I specifically asked about cedar because I think it looks better, and he told me the yellow pine is better for this area because it will last longer.
Your wooden posts are SYP, so they're going to twist and warp over time. You can't prevent that. Your SYP boards are going to be the same way, eventually.
Metal posts and cedar boards FTW.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:06 am to PrimeTime Money
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but he said the southern pine is better for this climate
Better for his profits is what he should have said. Cedar is more $ but you the general rule around here is use PTP for posts and cedar pickets.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:06 am to PrimeTime Money
Just dropping by to say that fence looks like shite.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:07 am to maxxrajun70
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looks pretty bad baw
No shite?! Ya think. My words were meant to give him ammo. If it ain't square show the contractor and make him fix it. When speaking structurally not being square can have more ramifications than just aesthetics.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:08 am to PrimeTime Money
Why is that bottom runner crooked as frick across your pickets?
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:08 am to PrimeTime Money
Looks bad man. I would of stopped them in the middle of job
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:09 am to PrimeTime Money
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and he told me the yellow pine is better for this area because it will last longer.
Not even close. PTP dries, warps, and cracks.
Cedar is pretty durable in comparison and less likely to do the above as well as less likely to rot.
Not to mention cedar won't have the greenish hue that PTP has.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:13 am to stout
quote:Well the main reason I liked cedar is because it's got a nice color and I'm not really a fan of the "greenish" hue of the pine.
Not even close. PTP dries, warps, and cracks. Cedar is pretty durable in comparison and less likely to do the above as well as less likely to rot. Not to mention cedar won't have the greenish hue that PTP has.
But he basically said the cedar won't last around here... and I don't wanna be shelling out for another fence anytime soon.
I guess he was giving me a line of bullshite.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:14 am to PrimeTime Money
It's 100% true. Eventually you'll have boards that look like twisted snow skis. Cedar is the better choice no matter where you live, I speak from experience.
FYI, if you can possibly have your gate frames fabbed from galvanized tubing, do it. More expense, but a much sturdier gate. DO NOT let your guy use a cheap gate frame kit to build them, especially a double gate (if that's the way you're going).
FYI, if you can possibly have your gate frames fabbed from galvanized tubing, do it. More expense, but a much sturdier gate. DO NOT let your guy use a cheap gate frame kit to build them, especially a double gate (if that's the way you're going).
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:15 am to PrimeTime Money
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I asked him about cedar but he said the southern pine is better for this climate and will last longer, so I said do that then.
I completly disagree with this. I live in Austin and cedar is the #1 choice. They use pressure treated post and cedar pickets. I just had mine done but my previous builder grade cedar fence lasted 16 years. The cedar pickets were still in decent shape but the post rotted.
Pressure treated pine pickets will always warp. That's why they used three runners on your fence. To try to keep the pickets flat when they begin to warp in a few years.
I have a neighbor down the street that cheaped out and used pine pickets and it looks like arse about five years later.
Pine is cheaper so maybe that's why he pushed you that direction. I would never put up a pine fence based on what my neighbors looks like after just a few years. Spend the extra money and go cedar.
I would think about firing this fence guy. Also the curved post where the fence will go, will just continue to warp. Get that replaced for sure.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:16 am to PrimeTime Money
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But he basically said the cedar won't last around here... and I don't wanna be shelling out for another fence anytime soon.
He's lying to save/make more money. Cedar can last up to like 30 years and pine is doing good to last half that long. The only thing cedar doesn't do well is handle soil which is why pine is better to use for posts.
Both will have maintenance cost over the years, but cedar even wins in that category.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:17 am to PrimeTime Money
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But he basically said the cedar won't last around here...
You would just need to hit it with a sealant made for high oil woods every 2-3 years. Cedar can last quite a while if taken care of, just like anything else.
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