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re: Am I a callous ahole because I don't care about class warfare?

Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:20 pm to
What about a citizen of the united states that grew up in an abusive house hold, suffered from mental illness all their life and were never able to afford psychological help which then led to self destructive behaviors?

What if some people were born into such shitty circumstances that they never stood a chance? Would you say that the average country club kid had a better chance from the very beginning of life to succeed?

I'm not religious, but if Jesus Christ is looking down on you people from heaven, he is fricking disgusted by your mind sets and behavior. Its one thing to not want to share our money, I get that, but to come out and say that you don't give a shite that there are millions of Americans that are suffering from poverty, says more about you and your morals than anything else. End of story.

Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:22 pm to
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dont have kids
Are you pro choice? Are you against birth control? Or should poor people just not have sex at all?
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10212 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:23 pm to
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What if some people were born into such shitty circumstances that they never stood a chance?


Ever been to fricking Haiti or the Congo? Don't give me that. Our lower classes live better and have more upward mobility opportunities than 90% of the rest of the world.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:26 pm to
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Are you pro choice?


No

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Are you against birth control?


No

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Or should poor people just not have sex at all?


I had sex throughout my 20’s and my first child when I was 31. Responsibility you seem to know nothing about.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:26 pm to
I've never been to Haiti or Congo. Let me ask you, do you feel bad for those people? Do you have compassion for them?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72198 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:26 pm to
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Are you pro choice? Are you against birth control? Or should poor people just not have sex at all?


I’m pro choice and until today, haven’t wanted kids. I have managed not have any.. It’s not overly complicated to avoid having children. Just wear protection, and if you don’t, pull out early and spray tits.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10212 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:26 pm to
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I'm not religious, but if Jesus Christ is looking down on you people from heaven, he is fricking disgusted by your mind sets and behavior. Its one thing to not want to share our money, I get that, but to come out and say that you don't give a shite that there are millions of Americans that are suffering from poverty, says more about you and your morals than anything else. End of story.


Parable of the talents. Jesus is on the record for backing hardworking, thrifty investors who planned for their futures. At some point people have to take ownership over their own lives. Just as God grants us free will to choose Him, He also grants us agency over our own lives and decisions.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:27 pm to
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I get that, but to come out and say that you don't give a shite that there are millions of Americans that are suffering from poverty, says more about you and your morals than anything else. End of story.


Tell us, comrade.

Tell us how you would fix these things in your Utopia.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26348 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:27 pm to
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Aren't Catholics against birth control and abortion? Pro life (until you are born, then go frick your self, dumpster baby)

I want IUDs given out in poor communities instead of turkeys during the holidays
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:27 pm to
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Let me ask you, do you feel bad for those people? Do you have compassion for them?


Yes. I’d rather donate canned goods locally though.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
31101 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:31 pm to
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Are you pro choice? Are you against birth control? Or should poor people just not have sex at all?


Lol. "Poor people don't have the ability to make better choices. We have to save them from themselves. Have your poor people spayed or neutered today." It's the next logical step for someone like you who has such a condescending view about other humans.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10212 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:32 pm to
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I've never been to Haiti or Congo. Let me ask you, do you feel bad for those people? Do you have compassion for them?


I do. Because unlike the US, most of the poor there are destined to be poor forever, regardless of their ambition and work ethic.

Also note I can see a completely lazy bum in the US and feel compassion for them without giving them my money or making excuses for their shitty behavior and actions.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38747 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:35 pm to
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What if some people were born into such shitty circumstances that they never stood a chance? Would you say that the average country club kid had a better chance from the very beginning of life to succeed?


Of course one has a better chance but they are both provided opportunity to an education and if the poor kid pays attention and graduates he had a good chance in life. He doesn't have to do any homework, just pay attention while at school and work hard while there, nothing more and he will graduate, prolly with a decent gpa also.

And nobody said poor people can't have sex, but if they can't live with the consequences then don't. Health clinic gives away free condoms so you don't have an argument here. Zero zilch nada. Plus condoms are what $3 for 3? Can't afford $3 a week? Well then put it in her arse or just get blow jobs or just pull out way ahead of time.

Or here is an idea, walk your arse down to the free health clinic and pick up the free condoms.

Quit making dumbass arguments trying to virtue signal.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:36 pm to
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It's almost like government is inefficient and terrible at these kinds of things
Reminds me of the Soviet private plots.

Farmers in the Soviet Union worked on huge government farms, obviously. But each of them was given a small plot of land that they could use to grow crops and eat or sell at a farmers market. Those private plots made up 3% of the USSR's agricultural acreage. Those private plots made up 25% of all farm output.

Central planning is horribly inefficient always has been and always will be.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:38 pm to
As a republican, I believe in personal responsibility. I believe in helping folks who have disabilities and people are down in their luck. But I believe in a handup and not a hand out. If you want to make your life better for you and your family, I will help you where I can. If you want to blame others for your irresponsible choices then we cannot deal.
Don’t bring kids into this world without having your own means to support them. And get a job counting rocks instead of looking for the government to give you something.

Everyone makes bad choices somewhere in their life. Some folks don’t care about improving though.
Posted by Desert King
Member since Oct 2018
1936 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:40 pm to
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Are you pro choice? Are you against birth control? Or should poor people just not have sex at all?


I’m pro-life, not opposed to birth control, and had an active sex life until becoming a father at age 29, married, and with a solid career going.

Guess I’m privileged huh?
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10212 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:49 pm to
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Peepdip


You got fricking bodybagged.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38806 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:53 pm to
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Go to school or learn a trade, don’t have kids when you are a kid, and save your money young. It’s really that simple.


very simple...
both parents have high school only education.. dad works 2 jobs... one at fedex and his own personal daytime business of driving heavy machinery... bought his own stuff... does his own work... works his own daytime hours...

they were married 5 years before having me to save up as part of their plan... i was blessed to go to private schools and never wanting for anything ... they instilled a need for higher education to continue the life I grew up with.. and I got my PhD at 25

Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17102 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:53 pm to
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The question isn't whether wealth is generated, the question is how it is distributed.


What do you mean by "distributed"?
Posted by Baws
Member since Jan 2020
520 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:54 pm to
These were core values (and common sense) in the 1950's but here we are in 2020....

Make America Great Again
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