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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread

Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:02 pm to
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Only watched the video a few times but it looked like he was laying on his back


The first two went into his body front side. The reason there may be a pause between shots is because he may have rolled over in the struggle after getting shot with a last surge of adrenaline and then got 2 more in the back. 9 mm going thru that much fat doesn't have guaranteed instant stopping power
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:03 pm to
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Same here. You can see him trying to get up and lifting his head while they are holding him down. Unless the dude is a contortionist, he was on his back.


Could be he was shot while on his back, rolled over and was shot in the back if they thought he was still reaching for something.

Just a possibility.
Posted by Lucky_Dog
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:04 pm to
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like the male that was crying at the presser today.

I think that's a woman.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:05 pm to
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do y'all think the cop said "he's going for the taser" or "he's going for the gun"?

I thought it was gun at first, but now I think it was taser. Sorry. Haven't been following this thread.


After watching it again, it does sound like "he's going for the taser". But that doesn't change a single thing. The cop pulled the gun and put it basically in the guys chest and told him to stop moving, then the other cop says either "he's going for the gun" or "he's going for the taser" and Alton continues to struggle with the gun in his face.

Alton escalated the situation into a shoot, maybe the cops weren't perfect if there is more evidence but there is plenty of evidence in that video to show me that Alton was looking to not comply no matter what.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:09 pm to
I look at it this way:

IF he said he's going for the gun/taser, that tends to prove he was, in fact, going for the weapon, or at least that the cops honestly believed he was.

IF he was going for the weapon, or if the cops honestly believed he was, then my question is what more has to happen before the cop can shoot ... to kill?

If I'm a cop, I say nothing. But I don't know if that's the law. I'm sure it came up in one of these other cases, but I don't remember.

Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:11 pm to
It's a .40 not a 9
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:11 pm to
Yeah, I just read on CNN that a preliminary autopsy shows gunshot wounds to the chest and back, so maybe that is what happened.
Posted by jlu03
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:16 pm to
isaac youree ?@isaacyouree · 32m32 minutes ago

On my way to a black lives matter riot in Baton Rouge and feeling liberated

Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:16 pm to
Technology has made them ballistically identical.

But... That is usually standard.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:18 pm to
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Also, I'd love to know if BRPD is going all hands tonight.


They have one of their comm vans and a tent setup in the parking lot at HQ.
Posted by HammerheadLincoln
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:18 pm to
LINK

New Video. He wasn't holding a gun
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476014 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:18 pm to
Gary Chambers just posted that he's about to go live on MSNBC
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:19 pm to
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Gary Chambers just posted that he's about to go live on MSNBC



Oh lord, this should be good.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:20 pm to
Yikes
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29787 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:20 pm to
Do you think they know he's a joke
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476014 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:21 pm to
i think he's already the handler for the family, so if they want access to the family they have to go through gary

AND HE'S ON
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:21 pm to
Here we go.
Posted by eldouchebag
BR
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:21 pm to
Gary is on now
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476014 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:22 pm to
all the air has been sucked out of them, it appears, b/c the DOJ is already on the case
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:22 pm to
It was nice knowing ya cops.
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