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Alternative view on why LA struggles to attract new companies.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 3/12/19 at 9:59 am
I know this topic has been repeated ad naseum, but the traditional reasons are not the only issue the state has.
Ask yourself this, "if Louisiana was more sought after by major corporations, would it be the same state." More capital investment in a state inevitably leads to more liberal politics. States like Texas and Colorado prove this to be true. Texas is currently Red, but has enough blue to inevitably make it purple in another 20 years. When all you have is older generation voters and no replacements for them, you hit this dilemma.
Many people are set in their ways in this state, and bringing in a major workforce would change many places drastically. Its similar to how gentrification will oust the original tenants. The socio economic changes will not be welcomed by everybody.
So with different attitudes and different perspectives to deal with, do you think it's worth it.
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:01 am to volod
LA is a largely a shithole and there is only a bleak future
if you're not sucking off the government teet (in one way or another), figuring out a way to provide services to the extreme lower class, or in petrochem, you're pretty much doomed
if you're not sucking off the government teet (in one way or another), figuring out a way to provide services to the extreme lower class, or in petrochem, you're pretty much doomed
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:02 am to volod
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Texas is currently Red, but has enough blue to inevitably make it purple in another 20 years
You could argue this for several states. For and against. Times change, people's thinking changes and administrations (local and Federal) change.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
I love Louisiana, really I do, but if people there put the same amount of time planning their future and participating in the governing process instead of planning the next festival, crawfish party, tailgate party, fishing trip, hunting trip, sports event, etc.. then the state might improve. The state's most valuable resource is its people, but most people just turn a blind eye to the deterioration and only look forward to the next good time event.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:12 am to volod
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More capital investment in a state inevitably leads to more liberal politics.
No it doesn’t. People invest capital to get away from liberal politics, just look at NYC and Amazon.
And look at LA’s local politics. It’s pretty damn blue
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:15 am to HubbaBubba
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festival, crawfish party, tailgate party, fishing trip, hunting trip, sports event, etc.. then the state might improve. The state's most valuable resource is its people, but most people just turn a blind eye to the deterioration and only look forward to the next good time event.
Never been to a crawfish party but have been/hosted many crawfish boils
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:16 am to HubbaBubba
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crawfish party
What’s a crawfish party?
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:16 am to HubbaBubba
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t most people just turn a blind eye to the deterioration and only look forward to the next good time event.
Hey beer is good.
frick my grandkids life, it will be their problem. Besides, nothing will ever change anyway in this corrupt backwards state.
*this is not an opinion of this poster
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:22 am to volod
IBM pulling the plug on the BR contact center plan is an example how tech struggles in LA. As a software engineer, LA salaries are way below industry value, there’s no way I would have stayed in LA.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:31 am to Breauxsif
I'm in the science/engineering realm and tried for a while after grad school to find a job in LA. Couldnt find one so ended up moving out of state. LA really needs those mid to upper salary range jobs for people to stay
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:33 am to volod
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More capital investment in a state inevitably leads to more liberal politics.
I bet this was a factor in La gave up those film incentives a few years back. Those movie makin artsy fartsy types don’t vote Republican.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:37 am to volod
quote:
More capital investment in a state inevitably leads to more liberal politics. States like Texas and Colorado prove this to be true. Texas is currently Red, but has enough blue to inevitably make it purple in another 20 years. When all you have is older generation voters and no replacements for them, you hit this dilemma.
Many people are set in their ways in this state, and bringing in a major workforce would change many places drastically. Its similar to how gentrification will oust the original tenants. The socio economic changes will not be welcomed by everybody.
So with different attitudes and different perspectives to deal with, do you think it's worth it.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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LA is a largely a shithole and there is only a bleak future if you're not sucking off the government teet (in one way or another), figuring out a way to provide services to the extreme lower class, or in petrochem, you're pretty much doomed
Just leave if you hate it so much
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:48 am to Celery
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bet this was a factor in La gave up those film incentives a few years back. Those movie makin artsy fartsy types don’t vote Republican.
Maybe I am misunderstanding? Artsy types usually are the MOST liberal. See all the controversy in California.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:59 am to volod
I won't discount this totally. Our incentive packages to industry are comparable to those in other states that have been successful in luring new business . However there is some structural impediments that the legislature refuses to reform or amend and it puts LA at just enough of a disadvantage
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:09 am to volod
I think if you had to pinpoint one single failure in our state, the ones that prevents companies from building and expending / relocating here, it's...
Suburban Education
Look at Houston.
HISD sucks just as much as EBR Public Schools suck, sucks just as much as Orleans Parish Public Schools suck. In all three areas, there are a few top-notch magnet schools, but the rank and file schools absolutely are horrible.
However, in Houston area, you have close-in suburban school district that are very good. Katy has great schools. Cy-Fair has some great schools. Pearland has some great schools. Spring Branch has Memorial HS and it's feeders. Spring has some great schools. Etc.
That allows professionals to not have to spend money on schools. That allows them to raise families and work in Houston while living in these outer areas and using their schools.
Now, look at the suburbs surrounding New Orleans and Baton Rouge. Some of St Tammany is ok. Some of St. Bernard is ok. Some of Ascension is decent. But none of those school districts light a candle to the ones that surround Houston.
And before someone says "muh demographics", they are pretty similar.
There is enough going on in South Louisiana to develop tech, medical, engineering (especially water engineering). But these fledgling companies can't find the employees here needed to truly grow. And companies aren't going to relocate / expand here. Why? Because they can't find people who want to move here. Why? Because of a lack of suburban educational options.
The city of Houston is full of corrupt liberal politicians and crime. Same for Atlanta. That's any urban area. It's our suburbs that need work.
Suburban Education
Look at Houston.
HISD sucks just as much as EBR Public Schools suck, sucks just as much as Orleans Parish Public Schools suck. In all three areas, there are a few top-notch magnet schools, but the rank and file schools absolutely are horrible.
However, in Houston area, you have close-in suburban school district that are very good. Katy has great schools. Cy-Fair has some great schools. Pearland has some great schools. Spring Branch has Memorial HS and it's feeders. Spring has some great schools. Etc.
That allows professionals to not have to spend money on schools. That allows them to raise families and work in Houston while living in these outer areas and using their schools.
Now, look at the suburbs surrounding New Orleans and Baton Rouge. Some of St Tammany is ok. Some of St. Bernard is ok. Some of Ascension is decent. But none of those school districts light a candle to the ones that surround Houston.
And before someone says "muh demographics", they are pretty similar.
There is enough going on in South Louisiana to develop tech, medical, engineering (especially water engineering). But these fledgling companies can't find the employees here needed to truly grow. And companies aren't going to relocate / expand here. Why? Because they can't find people who want to move here. Why? Because of a lack of suburban educational options.
The city of Houston is full of corrupt liberal politicians and crime. Same for Atlanta. That's any urban area. It's our suburbs that need work.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:12 am to volod
Taxes, quality of life and schools for children are what people want.
La is lacking in all three
La is lacking in all three
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:17 am to volod
It's plain and simply taxes and bad local govt. Property taxes on commercial property are like 17% of assessed value. Then you've got the Gordon's of the world preventing my company from even getting insurance in LA. I'm not huge, but I do a little less 15 mil in revenue and employ around 120 people. None of it in Louisiana. BR is home and I'd have loved to have built my business there, but the local govt is so anti-business I'd struggle to compete nationally. So now I'm HQed in Wyoming with terminals in Dallas and Atlanta. Until the populous demands pro-business reform, no one with a decent brain is setting up shop in that hell hole if they've got any mobility. I've got a home in BR and love to visit, but I'd never put a business there.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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LA is a largely a shithole
That's probably at least half the reason.
Our state is simply a dump with hardly any nice areas. Why would you pick up and move here??
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:56 am to volod
I love how politicians claim they can fix the state. No one can fix this shithole anymore. We’re doomed. Our only hope is to be annexed by Texas. Other than that, college grads are leaving in droves unless you’re a plant baw. The only people that will be left are plant baws and culcha. We’re the equivalent to a third world country
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