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re: Alligator kills woman in Florida after tipping over her canoe
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:26 am to djmed
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:26 am to djmed
I was fishing a dead lake in some floodwaters in the choctawhatchee river one time in NWFL and drifted right over the top of a 7-8' gator that couldn't have been more than a foot below the surface. It will scare the shite out of you. Luckily he didn't thrash because I was a loooong way from help.
I've had them thrash on me in mobile bay before near the battleship. They scare me a lot more than sharks. You aren't going to sneak up on a shark, but you can startle an Alligator and you don't know how they're going to react
I've had them thrash on me in mobile bay before near the battleship. They scare me a lot more than sharks. You aren't going to sneak up on a shark, but you can startle an Alligator and you don't know how they're going to react
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:41 am to Pezzo
quote:Florida?
isnt this the same place a boy died by gator a couple years ago?
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:53 am to Jon Ham
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I’m not going to lose sleep about not canoeing in those places knowing that if I did I could be attacked by a fricking alligator.
Do you also not drive knowing that if you did you could get in a wreck? The chances of that happening are much greater than getting attacked by an alligator.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:58 am to Jon Ham
quote:Do you just spend your life staying on the porch like a little hobbit?
I don’t get it. How does anyone’s brain let them get close to an alligator? How do you reach the conclusion that a canoe ride is worth the risk of being attacked by a wild animal that can certainly kill you if it chooses.
Many of us have enjoyed living in the world and managing risk issues. I enjoy doing wildlife photography, bird watching, hunting and fishing. But right now is a good time to avoid alligators as they are breeding and nesting in May. They can be very aggressive and dangerous right now. During most of the year, a tap on the boat with a paddle will send then scurrying away. Not right now.
But the expectation that we should hide from all scary things is amusing to me. Why not do some study and then do such things carefully?
I do not live a risk averse life, but learn to safely do things which some people perceive as dangerous.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:59 am to 777Tiger
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probably;y a mama protecting her nest, had this happen to a friend of mine right behind my house when I lived in Fl, except he wasn't killed
Me and mrtigerfan stole about a half dozen out of a nest when we were about 11 years old.
My mom made us bring them back and that part was scary as hell not knowing if momma was gonna show up.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:44 am to Jon Ham
I once stuck my paddle down in bayou sara to see how deep it was and immediately got knocked from the bottom of my kayak by a gator. In all that water the place I was thinking about jumping in was right on top of a gator
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:57 am to djmed
Damn, I’ve canoed by many gators out at Fausse Pointe and haven’t ever had a problem. Crazy!
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:15 pm to NewIberiaHaircut
Knowing the environmental trajectory of the state the gators are probably running out of fish.
It is more likely the drought that has been going on and the big gator was a tad bit ornery about sharing his 2 ft deep pool area.
It is more likely the drought that has been going on and the big gator was a tad bit ornery about sharing his 2 ft deep pool area.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:27 pm to Jon Ham
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I don’t get it. How does anyone’s brain let them get close to an alligator? How do you reach the conclusion that a canoe ride is worth the risk of being attacked by a wild animal that can certainly kill you if it chooses.
It'd be damn near impossible to go out of the house in most of their range if this was the case. The odds of being attacked, let alone killed, by an Alligator is so remote as to almost be non existent. It is FAR more dangerous, almost infinitely so, to drive an automobile from your home to a creek infested with Alligators than it would be to swim in that creek....
That said it is a good idea to keep an eye out when there is any sort of predator who might mistake you for a menu item....but hiding from them full time is silly.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:31 pm to djmed
So they ran over it and startled it and then it attacked them? I ain't certain I am buying the "startled" notion...sounds to me like it may have slipped under them and attacked with the intent of eating someone....I have startled Alligators many times, never had one hang out in the vicinity and certainly not come back for more interaction.
I fricked around and almost stepped on a great big un in Millen Georgia just a few weeks ago. We startled one another about as much as two animals could be startled....he jumped about 30 feet into the water and disappeared and I jumped about 3 inches and screamed like a girl and damn near soiled myself....neither one of us stuck around for further discussion of our encounter....
I fricked around and almost stepped on a great big un in Millen Georgia just a few weeks ago. We startled one another about as much as two animals could be startled....he jumped about 30 feet into the water and disappeared and I jumped about 3 inches and screamed like a girl and damn near soiled myself....neither one of us stuck around for further discussion of our encounter....
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:33 pm to Jcorye1
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That had to be an absolute monster. I've seen some big gators kayaking in bayous in Louisiana, and they never messed with me at all.
It seems like it might be a little late in Orlando for them to still have babies about....they certainly do in my area but we are 200 miles north of that area...I know they lose their damned minds when they have babies around....
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:36 pm to FearTheFish
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The person in the back actually steers the canoe
I know that, but the person up front is usually the one to say "THERE'S AN ALLIGATOR AHEAD OF US!"
If they were like a lot of canoers and kayakers they may have very well been trailing the thing and got too close. I see it all the time around me....folks who ought to know better getting closer and closer to a damned alligator so they can see it better. I hunt and fish around them all the time but I am fully aware of how dangerous they can be and how fast the frickers are....but a pile of folks thinks its the neatest thing in the world to crowd a wild animal and even a smallish alligator can put a damper on your Sunday afternoon....
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:38 pm to AwgustaDawg
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how fast the frickers are
this, a lot of people think they're slow and awkward but those frickers are fast, and can jump
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:43 pm to Jon Ham
Most people aren’t that big of pussys.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:46 pm to 777Tiger
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this, a lot of people think they're slow and awkward but those frickers are fast, and can jump
The frickers jumping is the scariest shite ever....they can fricking jump out of the water somehow. Its amazing enough that they can do it on land but when they are not touching bottom they can do it. Amazing animals, not one you want to voluntarily crowd.....
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:48 pm to AwgustaDawg
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they can fricking jump out of the water somehow.
I think they propel themselves with their tail, I've had two come out of the water at me and just barely got back from those jaws, of course, I was being a dumbass in front of some girls both times
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:49 pm to djmed
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It sounds like the canoe drifted over, on top of the alligator. The alligator was startled
I'm thinking theres more to the story
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:02 pm to AwgustaDawg
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The odds of being attacked, let alone killed, by an Alligator is so remote as to almost be non existent
quote:Lake Kissimmee, where a woman was killed by alligator, ranks No. 2 in state for gators. See list
The FWC said there have been 487 unprovoked alligator bites on people between 1948 and 2024. Of those, 339 were major bites and 27 were fatal
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:22 pm to Jon Ham
Your a pussy! I bet your life is exciting. But hey at least your alive right
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:40 pm to Turnblad85
quote:actually what really tipped the scales of overpopulation was the alligator farming process of returning X% of the young hatched from eggs they collect and releasing them at 3.5 feet. Baby gators in the wild have a very low survival rate. Once they reach 3.5 feet their survivability goes way way up.
Some people thought we weren't being fair to them and their little reptile families so we gave them the ability to repopulate at will.
There has long been NO NEED to release the 3.5 footers back into the wild.
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