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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Yeah the priors are pretty irrelevant in this case.



Does the prior arrest somehow mean that the guy wasn't blocked off and shot by a civilian that admittedly didn't witness him commit a crime?

If they're in possession of evidence that he committed a crime then they should divulge it. Otherwise they're toast.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24834 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:00 pm to
If people are trying to comment on character Id love to know what they can dig up on these wannabe cops who killed this young man. Probably can’t because of their connections to people in town.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63633 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:02 pm to
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if 1 person got some facts wrong this morning, so be it, but don't act like the 911 calls are some new information that the majority of the thread have ignored



I mean, there was literally another person a page or two ago asking Chicken about whether they called the police or not. But OK, man. Sorry I'm not following a Tigerdroppings thread as closely as you are. You and the rest of the anons in here clearly have it all figured out. Congrats?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34506 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:03 pm to
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Maybe. I think Georgia has a citizen’s arrest statute though.



Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Does the prior arrest somehow mean that the guy wasn't blocked off and shot by a civilian that admittedly didn't witness him commit a crime?


More to the point, the McMichaels clearly didn't know about his prior.

It's not like you can argue that the McMichaels would have thought he was more dangerous due to the prior they didn't know about.

You also can't argue it means Arbery is more likely to have acted in a violent way. You can see how he acted on the video. You don't need the prior to guess how he was acting.

You also can't argue the prior makes it more likely he had a gun the day he died. He didn't have one and we know that for sure.

Other than making Arbery look bad, what does the prior add?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87989 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:07 pm to
Yeah. The only thing relevant is what they reasonably knew at the time.
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11937 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to
Can someone tell me which page the racists come in and this thread gets good
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24834 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:09 pm to
Did they say they saw him at a construction site or something? Hell of a reason to kill a man...
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87989 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:12 pm to
Most of their views are assumptions and not based on anything they “knew” 100%.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107983 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Did they say they saw him at a construction site or something? Hell of a reason to kill a man...




They didn't even see him. They allegedly saw him on a video the neighbor provided. And Arbery's family could only confirm that one of the videos (from the day he died) was him. They don't even have confirmed video of him stealing the fishing gear that went missing several days before. They just assumed it was him.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:29 pm to
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I think the problem is that few facts are known here, regardless of position.



The one fact that's clear is that the initial police report is mostly fiction.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6226 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:30 pm to
Guy was a known burglar in the neighborhood. They confront him with guns. He tries to grab one of their guns instead of asking why they're chasing him. He gone.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
25515 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:49 pm to
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If they're in possession of evidence that he committed a crime then they should divulge it. Otherwise they're toast.


Don’t think it matters if they have evidence that he committed a crime at this point. They are toast either way.
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
1849 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

I - by default - do not believe anything Talcum X says until it's proven by a legitimate source. He has a 99.9% failure rate.



I am in the exact same boat. This looks horrible and hope these guys get what they deserve, but my first instinct is to disregard anything that piece of shite says. He does far more harm than good for black advocacy now.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3252 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:54 pm to
[/quote]
quote:

Guy was a known burglar in the neighborhood.

Link?

quote:

They chase him down in a vehicle with guns.
FIFY

quote:

He tries to grab one of their guns instead of asking why they're chasing him

You think it's wise to stop and ask questions after being shot at?

quote:

He murdered.
FIFY
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Guy was a known burglar in the neighborhood. They confront him with guns. He tries to grab one of their guns instead of asking why they're chasing him. He gone.




quote:

Mootsman


Hi Dylann
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14047 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:01 pm to
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I present facts to support my views


Fact: An unarmed man was shot following an encounter with two armed people.

Fact: The shooters claim to have been attempting a citizen's arrest.

Fact: The two men, through their own statements, did not meet the legal standard to perform a citizen's arrest.


How you like them facts?

From those facts what we have is at minimum a felony murder through an attempted kidnapping, or at worst a capital murder (not sure about the degrees under GA law, but likely what would be first degree).
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
5227 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:02 pm to
Found out more info.

McMichael is a former investigator for the DA office. Glynn County DA office recused themselves because he used to work there. A neighboring county DA took the case, then realized McMichael had worked for that DA office as well. He recused his office. A third DA took over the case and has empaneled a grand jury this week.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17574 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Guy was a known burglar in the neighborhood


You got a link for this or are you just making shite up.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63633 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Fact: The two men, through their own statements, did not meet the legal standard to perform a citizen's arrest.



You don't possess the authority to make a legal determination.
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