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re: Alec Baldwin’s ‘Rust’ Involuntary Manslaughter Trial Starts Today

Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3644 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

I’ll ask again for those that say he is guilty

An actor pushes another actor off a ledge. The stunt director didn’t propely attach the harness

The actor falls and dies

Guily as well correct? A proper person would never push someone off a ledge before properly inspecting the others harness right?


You forgot:

There were already a couple incidents on the set when a harness was improperly attached, and failed.

There were also other indications the stunt coordinator was incompetent; the stunt coordinator was loaning the harness out to a local amusement park and not checking it when it was returned.

The stunt coordinator wasn't on the set at all at the time, it was an assistant director (not a stunt expert) who said "good to go." Safety rules were that the stunt coordinator should be on the set and personally check things before the stunt was done. The actor knew the stunt coordinator wasn't there.

The stunt was supposed to be done with a safety mat under the actor who was pushed, just in case the harness failed. But, the pushing actor pushed before he was told to and before the mat was in place. He says it was by accident, but he definitely did push the other actor.

Yes, guilty of criminal negligence.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23263 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:29 pm to
Hope Alec’s Spanish wife is handling this well
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79140 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:08 pm to
This case is teetering on the edge of a dismissal due to an alleged Brady violation on behalf of the prosecution.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2477 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:13 pm to
He can't have a drink? That just seems punitive and irrelevant.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79140 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:08 pm to
It's a pretty typical condition of release.

He doesn't have to accept those term
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36609 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:22 pm to
Looks like this case is going to a settlement or mistral in about 45 minutes. The defense destroyed the police on handling some evidence that was received of ammo that matched the bullet that killed Halayna. They took the evidence but filed it under a different case number with a separate report a month after receiving it. Then when the defense asked for "all ammunition related to the Rust case" they pretended they didn't know about it since it was under a different case number.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
43391 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

This case is teetering on the edge of a dismissal due to an alleged Brady violation on behalf of the prosecution.


You knew it would happen...
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36609 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:00 pm to
Fireworks happening now. Judge is done.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:07 pm to
Even if he is found guilty, he won’t face any real consequences. Probably house arrest in a $20,000,000 mansion.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36609 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:12 pm to
It was just testified by the lead detective that the decision to put the ammo evidence under a different case # was in part made by and agreed to by the lead prosecutor.

Just yesterday she was loud saying that she never "saw" the ammo and never "saw" the report. Of course she knew about it.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36609 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:21 pm to
Now the prosecutor is testifying after a break. Earlier the prosecutor offered "I can testify" and the judge very curtly replied "You will."
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3242 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:26 pm to
I’m not sure if he’s guilty… did he close all of his leads?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36609 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:03 pm to
Dismissed with Prejudice!
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11461 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:04 pm to
It’s too bad Trump can’t stoop to Baldwin’s level and call him a murderer every day.

..because that would happen every day if the roles were reversed.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33144 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:09 pm to
I’m hearing without prejudice.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36609 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:12 pm to
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I’m hearing without prejudice

It was definitely WITH PREJUDICE. Cannot be tried again. The prosecutor was involved in trying to hide evidence. The judge ripped her a new one. I'm not sure, but I think the asst pros quit the case this morning when this stuff came up.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30122 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:22 pm to
I fricking hate him, but GOOD! The trial and prosecutor were a joke. It's no different than what they did to Trump
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19110 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:23 pm to
I have always said he wasn’t guilty of murder, and probably not even manslaughter. However, Baldwin hired that incompetent weapons master. He, the weapons master, the producers, and the studio should lose millions in a wrongful death suit. The award should be something in the neighborhood of what E Jean Carroll got.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
6595 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:27 pm to
I would say it’s a false equivalency, it takes more expertise to tell if a harness is safe than to simply check each chamber. Not to mention, anyone who handles a gun should have some basic knowledge of gun safety which takes about 2 minutes to learn.
Posted by Edward Rooney
Member since Jun 2024
269 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:30 pm to
Heard he was killing it on the set
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