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re: Alec Baldwin Charged With Involuntary Manslaughter in ‘Rust’ Shooting (OP Updated)
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:14 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:14 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I don’t know the facts of this case. Are we wanting him to pay becuase a loudmouthed hardcore lib who goes off about gun control all the time or did he really do something illegal?
maybe you return to the ukraine thread where you seem to know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:14 am to Byron Bojangles III
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he's not at fault.
Then why did he lie about the facts of the killing? He said he didn't pull the trigger. The FBI determined that's an absolute lie. He had to have pulled the trigger.
No fault for lying about a killing?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:15 am to Byron Bojangles III
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he's an actor who was handed a loaded gun by a prop master who assured him it was safe for use. he's not at fault.
bullshite. It is always always always the fault of the person pulling the trigger. I don't give one flying frick what anyone else told him. He's an adult and should have verified before pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger. Hell I expect children to do that, actor or not.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:15 am to baldona
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He aimed a gun at someone and pulled the trigger. Not to mention he is one of the producers of the movie and allowed the crew to screw around with the weapons while on set.
Didn't he also claim the gun just went off and investigators subsequently said that's not possible?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:15 am to Byron Bojangles III
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this board wants him charged because he's a liberal.
Incorrect.
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he's an actor who was handed a loaded gun by a prop master who assured him it was safe for use. he's not at fault.
He pointed a live weapon at a woman and pulled the trigger.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:16 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I don’t know the facts of this case. Are we wanting him to pay becuase a loudmouthed hardcore lib who goes off about gun control all the time or did he really do something illegal?
I love how the most objective take here is down voted. I've always wondered what the process is here. Shouldn't an armorer/safety position check the equipment before and then turn over to the actor? If I'm the actor then I am there to act and should trust that the person checking the equipment did their job
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:16 am to Byron Bojangles III
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this board wants him charged because he's a liberal.
he's an actor who was handed a loaded gun by a prop master who assured him it was safe for use. he's not at fault.
under the law no live ammunition was allowed on set, somehow that's Baldwin's fault...
No one was charged in the death of Brandon Lee, same thing.
So much of this is incorrect. Baldwin is not only an actor for this film, but also part of management that hired an unqualified individual to run the guns. Brandon Lee was killed by a blank, which lead to wholesale changes on how firearms are handled on movie sets.
Gross negligence lead to this shooting, and when that happens people in management positions usually get in trouble.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:16 am to Jcorye1
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Until cops are held to the same standard as private individuals, I will never believe lying to the police should be a crime.
A poster on the OT advocating for lying to police with no consequences. Why does this not surprise me?
I'm gonna guess, Biden voter?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:18 am to Festus
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I'm gonna guess, Biden voter?
You could guess, but you would be comically incorrect. Why should police be able to legally lie to suspects?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:19 am to Festus
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A poster on the OT advocating for lying to police with no consequences.
If he lied to the authorities, he should be charged with lying to the authorities.
Even someone who is anti-2nd amendment would have to admit he is a hothead and a nutjob. Still, charging him with this crime is silly.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:20 am to Jcorye1
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Why should police be able to legally lie to suspects?
Link to where I advocated for that? They absolutely should not and I would never advocate for that.
But I can link to where you advocated that people should be able to lie for cops, though.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:21 am to Byron Bojangles III
Melt
If that female cop in MN can be charged with the same crime when she accidentally shot a thug when thinking she was grabbing her taser, then Baldwin should be charged with the same crime.
Also, whoever holds the gun is responsible to checking if it’s loaded or not. Gun safety 101 but I doubt you know anything about that
If that female cop in MN can be charged with the same crime when she accidentally shot a thug when thinking she was grabbing her taser, then Baldwin should be charged with the same crime.
Also, whoever holds the gun is responsible to checking if it’s loaded or not. Gun safety 101 but I doubt you know anything about that
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:21 am to jmarto1
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I am there to act and should trust that the person checking the equipment did their job
If you are a fricking human over the age of 5 you should know the basics of safe firearm handling and always always always verify what someone else tells you when handed a firearm. You never trust anyone on this. Hell, even if I watch the person who hands me a gun check the action I immediately check it again myself.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:21 am to ccard257
quote:He's an actor not a gun expert a normal person can't tell the difference between live ammo and blanks. i don't care if Baldwin was a conservative they had someone hired to prevent this and they didn't do their job.
bullshite. It is always always always the fault of the person pulling the trigger. I don't give one flying frick what anyone else told him. He's an adult and should have verified before pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger. Hell I expect children to do that, actor or not.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:22 am to Byron Bojangles III
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this board wants him charged because he's a liberal.
frick off with this nonsense. Any normal person that points a gun at and kills someone with no justifiable reason should be charged for that action.
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he's an actor who was handed a loaded gun by a prop master who assured him it was safe for use. he's not at fault.
under the law no live ammunition was allowed on set, somehow that's Baldwin's fault...
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:23 am to Byron Bojangles III
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He's an actor not a gun expert a normal person can't tell the difference between live ammo and blanks.
It's not that hard to tell the difference.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:24 am to jmarto1
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I love how the most objective take here is down voted
It's not objective. Ignorance doesn't make someone objective.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:24 am to jmarto1
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I've always wondered what the process is here. Shouldn't an armorer/safety position check the equipment before and then turn over to the actor? If I'm the actor then I am there to act and should trust that the person checking the equipment did their job
For the most part there are safety checks in Hollywood. Baldwin had ownership in this movie and they intentionally hired an inexperienced Armorer to save money.
The general protocol is for the Armorer to hand the gun to the actor and show them that is armed/ unarmed/ etc. This was not done. He basically grabbed a gun assuming it was safe and pulled the trigger.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:25 am to Byron Bojangles III
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He's an actor not a gun expert a normal person can't tell the difference between live ammo and blanks. i don't care if Baldwin was a conservative they had someone hired to prevent this and they didn't do their job.
If Baldwin believed this, then I would sincerely like your honest take on why he lied to the FBI about pulling the trigger. According to you, pulling the trigger would have no bearing on whether or not he was guilty. So why lie?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:25 am to Festus
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If Baldwin believed this, then I would sincerely like your honest take on why he lied to the FBI about pulling the trigger. According to you, pulling the trigger would have no bearing on whether or not he was guilty. So why lie?
You won't get an answer to this.
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