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re: Alabama will end its participation in federal pandemic unemployment compensation programs
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:32 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:32 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
in other words. get a job!
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:34 pm to The Spleen
The Facebook post I just saw saying "it was fun while it lasted, gotta get back to work" is all the proof I need.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:38 pm to QJenk
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I thought this was federally mandated. I didn't know states had the right to rescind it.
Is it the United States of America or American States?
She is doing exactly what she should, telling the federal govt to shove it.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:39 pm to kengel2
Mississippi following suit:
Tate Reeves
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The purpose of unemployment benefits is to temporarily assist Mississippians who are unemployed through no fault of their own. After many conversations over the last several weeks with Mississippi small business owners and their employees, it has become clear that the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) and other like programs passed by the Congress may have been necessary in May of last year but are no longer so in May of this year.
Therefore, I have informed the Department of Employment Security to direct the Biden Administration that Mississippi will be opting out of the additional federal unemployment benefits as early as federal law allows – June 12, 2021. It has become clear to me that we cannot have a full economic recovery until we get the thousands of available jobs in our state filled. I have also directed MDES to prioritize pre-pandemic enforcement of all eligibility requirements for any individual to receive unemployment benefits under state law. Mississippi is open for business!
Tate Reeves
13m ·
The purpose of unemployment benefits is to temporarily assist Mississippians who are unemployed through no fault of their own. After many conversations over the last several weeks with Mississippi small business owners and their employees, it has become clear that the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) and other like programs passed by the Congress may have been necessary in May of last year but are no longer so in May of this year.
Therefore, I have informed the Department of Employment Security to direct the Biden Administration that Mississippi will be opting out of the additional federal unemployment benefits as early as federal law allows – June 12, 2021. It has become clear to me that we cannot have a full economic recovery until we get the thousands of available jobs in our state filled. I have also directed MDES to prioritize pre-pandemic enforcement of all eligibility requirements for any individual to receive unemployment benefits under state law. Mississippi is open for business!
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:41 pm to Costanza
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The purpose of unemployment benefits is to temporarily assist Mississippians who are unemployed through no fault of their own.
wait! I thought it was free money handed out to get votes from lazy fricks who don't want to work?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:43 pm to The Spleen
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Does she have a citation for this beyond what business owners are saying?
Looks like your ride is ending spleen, good luck in the real world
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:45 pm to Froman
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It’s just that that doesn’t appear to be the main issue as to why these low-balling businesses can’t attract employees.
There it is.
The big bad meanie business not paying oodles for minimum wage employees
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:46 pm to The Spleen
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It's likely the right move by Ivey.
I lean to it being the right move as well. Just would prefer some more justification for the move, and working to gain more understanding at why the issue is present. Sometimes it is the most simple explanation, but there does seem to be some other factors going on. People just leaving the workforce, people finding better jobs, people deciding both spouses don't need to work, etc.
I would generally lean on being more disciplined with subsidies when UE is so low and participation rate is so low. I am not sure I'd would do it if participation was at or near historical maximums; in that scenario, the onus would be more on firms to raise the entry-level wage floor (and it would be happening, anyway). I think some folks forget that wages were rising pretty damn quickly prior to Covid - as fast as they had in a generation or longer.
She also needs to protect the existing worker as well and work to mitigate inflation where she can.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:47 pm to HailToTheChiz
Never takes long, does it?
That’s really what they’re upset about. They thought Covid and expanded government assistance would force a minimum wage change.
That’s really what they’re upset about. They thought Covid and expanded government assistance would force a minimum wage change.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:49 pm to Froman
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It’s just that that doesn’t appear to be the main issue as to why these low-balling businesses can’t attract employees
If you had value, they couldn't low ball you
I recently worked for the DoL. You are so off base.
The lower tiers of our population will never work if they get enough handouts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:51 pm to AbuTheMonkey
I'm in Southside, AL. I can confirm this to be the case. Several of my friends own businesses that employ large number of entry level workers. Most of them have had to reduce their hours of operation due to people not wanting to work. My 16 year old son has applied to several places looking for summer work and has his pick of summer job, he still has 3 weeks of school left before making a decision on what he wants to spend his summer doing.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:52 pm to The Spleen
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there does seem to be some other factors going on. People just leaving the workforce, people finding better jobs, people deciding both spouses don't need to work, etc.
So, just like pre-Covid? Therefore the Covid unemployment benefits are no longer needed. But yet you're in here complaining...
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:52 pm to The Spleen
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I think it's contributing a little bit
the mental gymnastics you do are incredible Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:52 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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That’s really what they’re upset about. They thought Covid and expanded government assistance would force a minimum wage change.
Hell, they hoped government stimulus payments would be permanent.
I would rather see direct payments instead of other programs, but we are FAR off from universal income.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:57 pm to The Spleen
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increased unemployment assistance, which was meant to be a short-term relief program during emergency related shutdowns, is now contributing to a labor shortage
Does she have a citation for this beyond what business owners are saying?
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Our Department of Labor is reporting that there are more available jobs now than prior to the pandemic.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:00 pm to The Spleen
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Does she have a citation for this beyond what business owners are saying?
I would say that almost every business (especially restaurants) have help wanted signs up.
People need to get off their asses and go back to work.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:02 pm to Froman
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It’s just that that doesn’t appear to be the main issue as to why these low-balling businesses can’t attract employees.
Low balling implies that there is a competing offer.
If unemployment income isn’t the competing offer, what is?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:02 pm to alphaandomega
Who could have ever guessed spleen would have been the one to play Devil’s advocate on this topic
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:03 pm to The Spleen
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Does she have a citation for this beyond what business owners are saying?
There are jobs available everywhere. Places are closed with signs up stating they can't open on certain days of the week due to staffing levels. This morning I couldn't buy donuts for my kid's birthday party at school because the local donut shop is closed on Mondays due to staffing issues. I could give you 10-15 other examples in my immediate area where businesses are closed for entire days or entire shifts due to staffing issues. It is very clear to anyone who isn't a complete hack that this is a major problem.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:04 pm to alphaandomega
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I would say that almost every business (especially restaurants) have help wanted signs up.
I haven't seen that in Birmingham, but maybe I just patron places that aren't experiencing it. Lowe's is the only place I've been recently that seems desperate for workers. They've had signs on their doors promising interviews on the spot for at least a few weeks now.
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