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re: Alabama will end its participation in federal pandemic unemployment compensation programs
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:52 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:52 pm to The Spleen
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Does she have a citation for this beyond what business owners are saying?
Well, why don’t you ask her?
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:58 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
I thought this was federally mandated. I didn't know states had the right to rescind it.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:59 pm to blzr
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Stop being a communist leech
it'd be nice to see politicians act on something other than a hunch, even when it's a hunch that you agree with.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:02 pm to Powerman
Florida
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:02 pm to The Spleen
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I think it's contributing a little bit, but I wondered if she had some hard data that points to it being such a factor that she took this action. I think there are other factors going on though, and she doesn't seem to be taking any action to address those factors.
Just a little bit? Just a complete coincidence that there wasn't this problem before covid unemployment payments?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:02 pm to The Spleen
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I think it's contributing a little bit, but I wondered if she had some hard data that points to it being such a factor that she took this action. I think there are other factors going on though, and she doesn't seem to be taking any action to address those factors.
The places around here with good reputations on pay and treatment of employees aren't having a problem filling their positions.
Here's the hard data:
Vaccinations are available to any adult who wants one.
Get back to work.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:06 pm to Costanza
Have a buddy that owns a successful restaurant and when I asked him why they aren't back open for lunch yet his response was, 'I can't find the staff'.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:09 pm to Froman
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low-balling businesses
What do you base this on?
A lot of them are offering signing bonuses and $15+ an hour
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:10 pm to jchamil
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Just a complete coincidence that there wasn't this problem before covid unemployment payments?
Her own release cites Alabama's unemployment at 3.8%. The Federal Reserve considers full employment to be around 5%, so something isn't really adding up.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:10 pm to The Spleen
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The places around here
Name them.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:11 pm to Froman
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why these low-balling businesses can’t attract employees.
You can only pay so much and be profitable. That is unless you want to pay $20 for a cheeseburger.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:11 pm to The Spleen
quote:Do you have a citation to this beyond what you are claiming?
The places around here with good reputations on pay and treatment of employees aren't having a problem filling their positions.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:12 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Should have already been stopped.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:14 pm to The Spleen
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think it's contributing a little bit, but I wondered if she had some hard data that points to it being such a factor that she took this action. I think there are other factors going on though, and she doesn't seem to be taking any action to address those factors. The places around here with good reputations on pay and treatment of employees aren't having a problem filling their positions.
Is there anything you won’t lie about to try to prove your terrible points?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:21 pm to The Spleen
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Just a complete coincidence that there wasn't this problem before covid unemployment payments?
Her own release cites Alabama's unemployment at 3.8%. The Federal Reserve considers full employment to be around 5%, so something isn't really adding up.
Participation rate is decreasing again after the second round of checks went out.
Just as an aside, that's a shitty participation rate both before and after the pandemic.
It's a state with a cheap CoL, and unemployment subsidies are going to push marginally more people into the non-participating group in Alabama than in California or New Jersey. It's likely the right move by Ivey.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:23 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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It's likely the right move by Ivey.
Good post, but really it's not "likely" the right move at all. It's the no brainer correct move.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:25 pm to QJenk
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I thought this was federally mandated. I didn't know states had the right to rescind it.
I don’t know the specifics of that issue, but I think states have more discretion when it comes to participation in pandemic unemployment programs, such as the program offering the additional $300 in unemployment benefits beyond the regular benefits.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:30 pm to bbap
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Looks like Mississippi is considering it too. And I think Montana has also ended it.
Florida announced they’re ending it at the end of May
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:30 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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It's likely the right move by Ivey.
I lean to it being the right move as well. Just would prefer some more justification for the move, and working to gain more understanding at why the issue is present. Sometimes it is the most simple explanation, but there does seem to be some other factors going on. People just leaving the workforce, people finding better jobs, people deciding both spouses don't need to work, etc.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:32 pm to Froman
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It’s just that that doesn’t appear to be the main issue as to why these low-balling businesses can’t attract employees.
There was no labor shortage pre Covid. What changed? Oh yea, people got free federal money that was equivalent to making 15-16 dollars an hour
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