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re: Alabama places 'failing' label on majority black schools only

Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:21 pm to
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yes but that is hard to do when a vast majority grow up in single parent homes.


Until that cycle is addressed and not glossed over, not much will change.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15390 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:21 pm to
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Until blacks as a general rule


Deflect all you wish but I said generally. There are some black people that value education and use that to escape the cycle of poverty. But not nearly enough, and they are not anywhere near the majority.

Too many blacks rely on victim hood, prioritize destructive behaviors, and are waiting on someone to hand them an easy lifestyle. It's not going to happen. As with any family that has had some form of success someone, somewhere, sometime had to strap it up and bust their arse to elevate out of cycles of failure. Excuses don't pay the mortgage.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:21 pm to
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I remember the church-going black women in our office, pillars of their community, cheering like they'd won the lottery when OJ was acquitted. I lost a fair amount of faith that afternoon.



I remember this white man who gave me candy in my grandparents neighborhood call my uncle a dirty thieving n word when he thought my uncle stole his lawn mower when all actuality his son in law stole it and pawned it. He later apologized and I didn't go out and join the black panthers. Funny how you let your personal experience shape your view of an entire race.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:23 pm to
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Funny how you let your personal experience shape your view of an entire race.


But you said not to rely on what I saw on the news.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30970 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:23 pm to
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quote:
yes but that is hard to do when a vast majority grow up in single parent homes.


This.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86726 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:24 pm to
I know

which is funny because I went to a very poor, rural school and yet, the school did well to average on scores despite the majority low socioeconomic standing of most of its students

it was also 99% white

you can take what you want from that
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:25 pm to
Well shite man just be honest!

Black people have got to STOP pointing the finger, but they wont because it is an easy cop out.

Want more funding for schools - doesn't make kids go to or care about school

black lives matter - blacks kill more blacks than any other race

"frick the police" - calls police as soon as they have an emergency

These are just a few examples of what I mean by be honest. As the old saying goes "help me, help you"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:26 pm to
lower class white people are increasing their "negative" stats at breakneck speed. lots of single mothers and medicaid explosion there
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:28 pm to
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Lots of blame on the state, politicians, geography and white people but not on the ones who are failing.


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Thoughts?


Black parents don't care about educating their children and would rather blame everyone else except themselves
Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
4557 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:29 pm to
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Black parents don't care about educating their children and would rather blame everyone else except themselves


Of course you show up in this thread...
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78036 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:29 pm to
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lower class white people are increasing their "negative" stats at breakneck speed. lots of single mothers and medicaid explosion there

Truth. Insane how fast that shitty group is expanding.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15390 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:30 pm to
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lower class white people are increasing their "negative" stats at breakneck speed. lots of single mothers and medicaid explosion there


Because our government incentivizes this kind of irresponsible behavior. It's much easier than using birth control or waiting until you are in a position to support a family.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Of course you show up in this thread


i was working so a little late to the party
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:32 pm to
Birmingham City Schools ran off a former teacher of the year. There are bigger problems in some Alabama schools that have nothing to do with race. Schools have resegregated in more regions besides the South.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Because our government incentivizes this kind of irresponsible behavior.

100%

it's not a racial thing

it's a cultural issue + government subsidy and incentives
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78036 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:34 pm to
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Because our government incentivizes this kind of irresponsible behavior. It's much easier than using birth control or waiting until you are in a position to support a family.
The biggest issue is how they incentivize this behavior, but we can't address it because that would be judgmental.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 2:34 pm
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:34 pm to
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Deflect all you wish but I said generally.



gen·er·al·ly
'jen(?)r?le/
adverb
1.
in most cases; usually.


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Too many blacks rely on victim hood, prioritize destructive behaviors, and are waiting on someone to hand them an easy lifestyle.


Is that right? Let see it is a generational system that have blacks in the shape they are in today it is not by happenstance.

Started as slaves worked relied on master for food and shelter.

Then went on to sharecropping relied on rich white man to rent property at high rate and get a large percentage of profit.


Segregation relied on nice white man for job. Only could live in certain areas. How can you chase the American Dream when you have to have permission from the white man?

Today, post jim crowe, have a chance to accumualate wealth or chase the american dream.

You have a race who has been here since this country's infancy, but just now around the 1970s they were allowed to make a place for themselves in a country that has let every other race make their mark here first. You expect blacks to prosper as a whole when they are just now experiencing freedom?


Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:35 pm to
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100%

it's not a racial thing

it's a cultural issue + government subsidy and incentives


Meanwhile, a small percentage of whites and an even smaller percentage of blacks have to work like hell to keep footing the bill for an ever-increasing leisure class/underclass who is happy where they are. Or at least not unhappy enough to do anything but bitch about how unfair they have it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:38 pm to
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in a country that has let every other race make their mark here first.

the problem is when you make statements like this

latinos and asians didn't exactly have it easy until the mid-20th century as well (and frick, we interned the japanese in the 40s)

even some white groups were really discriminated against to the point of de facto slavery (like the irish, who were given worse jobs than slaves b/c their lives were less valuable. think of that)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:39 pm to
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Meanwhile, a small percentage of whites and an even smaller percentage of blacks have to work like hell to keep footing the bill for an ever-increasing leisure class/underclass who is happy where they are. Or at least not unhappy enough to do anything but bitch about how unfair they have it.

yes it's a literal cultural war that producers are losing
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