re: Alabama places 'failing' label on majority black schools only

Solution: get to the kids earlier. put an emphasis on education, reading, etc. in elementary school. emphasize reading assignments and assignments that involve the parent. then build those kids support groups using fun activities/small group activities every single day.. after school sports or other organized activities (not the type kids hate).

there's obvious failures that come from the municipalities and obvious failures that come from the home.

allowing older students flexibility/freedom in what classes they take providing they meet minimum requirements would go a long way to. at the very least it would help separate the distractions from the students eager to learn.

and get some of those mean old black men teachers who won't put up with shite to run the school.

woah woah woah... what do you mean, you people?

In all seriousness, I do respect an honest discussion, but how can we be honestwith responses like "50/50"?

And to be completely honest, I thought your question about what makes up the other 50% was complete sarcasm. I read it the wrong way and responded with a smartarse comment of my own. I wasn't trying to derail the thread, although my response is probably not far off from how some people think.

Until blacks as a general rule start valuing education and stop glorifying thuggish, baller style miscreants as their cultural heroes this will not change.

Kanye and Lil' Wayne are not role models.

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We really need to get parentS involved in a positive way.

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yes but that is hard to do when a vast majority grow up in single parent homes.

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1st of all I wasn't even talking to you.

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Sorry thought this was an open-ended discussion. If it is invitation only, I was unaware.

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2nd How do you even quantify something like what the op asked?

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I do not know but I can assure placing 50% of the blame on anything outside of the parents and upbringing is incorrect.

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I was trying to say that the responsibility is to be shared by both the parents and the system that these students are put in/born in.

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My school system had no bearing on how well I performed, but I can assure you my momma would have whooped my arse if I performed badly, regardless of my learning environment.

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this is if you really are interested if you just want to argue with me about personal responsibility is the sole answer then I rather not.

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i said it's a cycle with my first post

the only reason there isn't resource allocation in these areas (it's more than just black; i'm talking poor areas generally) is because of the population, too. that's the cycle.

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Results indicated that there is a difference in the variety of resources students receive based on the school they attend. The main factor was the support from the parents and community. Those at a high wealth school donated much more than those at the low wealth school. The parents at a high wealth school worked to fund the salaries of additional specialty teachers for pullout classes such as art and music. While the parents at the low wealth schools may want these classes for their students, they don’t have the funds to do so.

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this doesn't disagree with my point

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yes but that is hard to do when a vast majority grow up in single parent homes.

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again, the cycle

i don't want to bring up the "big C" but it's mostly all cultural values and the effects of those values in action

single parent households are a sign of the poor

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Its funny when you try to act as if you know how things work and will act as if personal responsibility is the answer to this problem when there was and are systems in place to promote the what is going on in these "failing schools." LINK ^ this is if you really are interested if you just want to argue with me about personal responsibility is the sole answer then I rather not.

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Bull shite. Personal responsibility and parental oversight are overwhelmingly more important. Reference: I grew up in a town with 1 high school. All the blacks and whites within the city limits were forced to attend the same high school. They got the same facilities and the resources were allocated equally, because there was literally no other option within the city limits.

I personally know multiple people who have gone on to be college professors, engineers, successful salesmen, nurses, doctors, etc., from that school. I also know people from that school who are now in jail or just slinging dope on the street or at home with their welfare babies doing nothing.

Hmmmm what could possibly be the difference? Must be institutional "resource allocation" racism right?

Oh Wait! I know. Kids from group A had no one give a shite about them or tell them that they could do anything. Group B had involved parents who did give a shite and impressed the importance of education upon their children. Guess which group became successful and which didn't. I'll wait.

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I take it this is the school board's fault too? Or is it the lack of funding?

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Ok I am done talking to you. Have a nice day.