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re: Alabama cops shoots man exiting his vehicle with his wallet
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:25 am to cas4t
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:25 am to cas4t
quote:this is what's glaring.
No one does this for a fender bender. period. You can pretend you do, but we both know you don't.
I always exit vehicle for a fender bender.
Always.
I always sit in my car if pulled over. Always.
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:25 am to cas4t
quote:
Maybe
do you know him?
I do not. My assertion is based on what we now know of the situation and what can be seen in the video. Which I think is logical.
Do you have reason to believe the officer would behave in that way based on anything else (history of shooting people maybe)?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:26 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
yeah, I've gotten out of my vehicle before a cop asked me to and i've never been shot.
Same here. Guess we were lucky. Luckily most cops are smart. Situations like this are ridiculous though and should not occur. That cop was way more likely to get hit by a car, than killed by a guy who was just in a minor accident and had called the cops to report a usual occurrence.
Even law abiding citizens get nervous around cops. That doesn't mean they should get shot because they might be jittery.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:26 am to Pecker
quote:
If cops start fearing blue sedans then that's out of your control.
Or wallets?
If that's the case then in your mind would the driver had been justified in shooting back?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:26 am to Pecker
quote:
That doesn't make it right, but acting like an idiot still isn't a smart move.
Shooting a dude with a wallet in his hand and no firearm is the problem.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:27 am to cas4t
quote:
No one does this for a fender bender. period. You can pretend you do, but we both know you don't.
Why is it relevant if I do or do not do this.
It certainly appears to be the most logical approach to the situation, at least based on what we just witnessed. Or do you disagree?
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 10:27 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:27 am to Pecker
quote:
what can be seen in the video. Which I think is logical.
you think its logical for a police officer to shoot someone exiting their vehicle with their hands in the air?
Please tell me you arent raising children
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:27 am to Pecker
quote:
Do you have reason to believe the officer would behave in that way based on anything else
Yes. He's a trooper and he's in Alabama.
They're a fricking nightmare to work with.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:28 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
too late, courts let him walk
Surely now that there's new evidence that was withheld they can do something about this.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:28 am to Pecker
quote:
It certainly appears to be the most logical approach to the situation, at least based on what we just witnessed. Or do you disagree?
Everyone here is saying they get out before a cop tells them to for fender benders.
Except you.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:28 am to Pecker
quote:
It's based on the most logical behaviors one can be responsible for when dealing with officers.
cops don't generally pull their weapon over a fender bender, so your assessment on how to handle interactions with the police after a fender bender is actually based off an anomalously, which is not how logic works.
also, you keep using the term "logical" incorrectly.
quote:
characterized by or capable of clear, sound reasoning.
so you believe the cop reacted badly, yet acted in clear and sound reasoning?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:28 am to Pecker
Summary of Pecker's comments:
Guy shouldn't have jumped out the car
Guy shouldn't have been holding a black object
Cop feared for his life
Cop has to deal with stupid, aggressive people all day so he's too stressed to handle a traffic accident
Missing anything?
Guy shouldn't have jumped out the car
Guy shouldn't have been holding a black object
Cop feared for his life
Cop has to deal with stupid, aggressive people all day so he's too stressed to handle a traffic accident
Missing anything?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:29 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:
you think its logical for a police officer to shoot someone exiting their vehicle with their hands in the air?
I think the only logical conclusion to arrive at is that the officer is poorly trained and feared that the black object in the man's hand posed a threat.
Do you disagree? To disagree means that the officer shot him because he just wanted to shoot someone (or that person specifically). Is that what you're telling me?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:29 am to upgrayedd
quote:
Surely now that there's new evidence that was withheld they can do something about this.
Cases like this regardless of facts rarely work out for the driver.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:29 am to Rebelgator
quote:
Yes. He's a trooper and he's in Alabama.
They're a fricking nightmare to work with.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:30 am to Pecker
quote:
It certainly appears to be the most logical approach to the situation, at least based on what we just witnessed. Or do you disagree?
I don't base my logic on an aberration. So yes, I disagree.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:30 am to meauxjeaux2
I just noticed the trucker put his hands up...would love to have seen his face when he heard the gun shot
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:30 am to ell_13
quote:
Summary of Pecker's comments:
Guy shouldn't have jumped out the car
Guy shouldn't have been holding a black object
Cop feared for his life
Cop has to deal with stupid, aggressive people all day so he's too stressed to handle a traffic accident
Missing anything?
Pretty close. You missed the part where the cop is maybe not very intelligent and is poorly-trained and made a poor decision based on a poor reading of the situation.
I think he felt threatened when he shouldn't have and shot the man. I think the man would have been better served to have stayed in his vehicle. If you think the man made the best decision possible then I'd hate to see what a bad decision would have led to.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:30 am to cas4t
quote:
I don't base my logic on an aberration. So yes, I disagree.
Then why did he shoot the man?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:31 am to Pecker
quote:That's the only option? Either he was threatened or he wanted to shoot him? You sure about that?
I think the only logical conclusion to arrive at is that the officer is poorly trained and feared that the black object in the man's hand posed a threat.
Do you disagree? To disagree means that the officer shot him because he just wanted to shoot someone (or that person specifically). Is that what you're telling me?
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