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re: Affordability Crisis...list the things we didn't have to pay for a few generations ago...
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:51 pm to sidewalkside
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:51 pm to sidewalkside
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Travel - When I was a kid we took one MAYBE two vacations in a year...now families go on 3-4-5+ vacations in a year easily. That's thousands of dollars more.
Shiiiiiit. Think we took 4-5 vacations my entire childhood
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 12:54 pm
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:51 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Generations ago?
Insurance: vehicle, home, and health.
These were all expenses a generation(s) ago.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:54 pm to chryso
Oxtails were $8.99 lb a couple of months ago at Publix. Crazy.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:54 pm to danilo
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Shiiiiiit. Think we took 5 vacations my entire childhood
I think we took one most summers until my older sister was in high school. Most of them were to Houston to Astroworld though, and never more than one per year. We always drove too. The first time I flew on a plane was my SR trip.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:54 pm to sidewalkside
I'd say we got tv and show subscription apps in exchange for going to the movies/blockbuster movie rentals. Movie food is still as expensive as it has been. $20/month for basically cable TV minus a few live shows is cheaper than buying a current cable subscription, even if you bundled with internet.
Eating out is a different topic. 30 years ago you did not have as many jobs where people needed to be reached at any given moment. There are more jobs now that require people to be available outside of the traditional 9-5 hours. Fast food and other businesses being open well into the evening. You didn't have people working the AM to work on tech support. The employment landscape is way different. Everything is very much focused on consumption.
Traveling was never cheap by air but by car you can still do a lot at a reasonable price when all is said and done.
Eating out is a different topic. 30 years ago you did not have as many jobs where people needed to be reached at any given moment. There are more jobs now that require people to be available outside of the traditional 9-5 hours. Fast food and other businesses being open well into the evening. You didn't have people working the AM to work on tech support. The employment landscape is way different. Everything is very much focused on consumption.
Traveling was never cheap by air but by car you can still do a lot at a reasonable price when all is said and done.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:56 pm to GreenRockTiger
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This is dumb, most of those things you don’t need
What % of people do you think pay for them though?
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:57 pm to sidewalkside
Water (bottled)
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:57 pm to sidewalkside
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Wifi/Internet - easily $100 a month
We pay $50 for 100 Mpbs. That's plenty for our family of 5.
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Cell Phones (just the device) - $20 to $30 a month per phone
Stop buying the newest phones. Go on Amazon and get an unlocked older phone that will work just as good. I got a Galaxy S21+ for a little over $200.
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Cell Phone Service (yes I will deduct the monthly expense we used to have with land lines back in the day) - Easily $100 a month more for a family as opposed to paying for one single house phone.
Do prepaid. My wife and I pay $600 per year for two lines with AT&T prepaid. My kids have $5 sim cards from Hello Mobile with unlimited talk/text but very little data(that they don't need).
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Cable/Streaming Subscriptions - Again easily $100 a month more for a family as opposed to old school basic cable or even free over the air TV
Check out an IPTV subscription. I won't go into details but it usually runs about $8-15/month.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:58 pm to sidewalkside
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Affordability Crisis
You call it an affordability crisis. I call it a spending crisis.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 12:58 pm to fallguy_1978
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Daycare - growing up I didn't know any kids that went to daycare
What happened to baby sitters? It seems like every neighborhood had one or two moms who babysat. They would have 5 or 6 kids, during the school year they only had to watch the young kids all day then the other ones would get dropped off by the bus then stay there until their parents came pick them up.
One of my neighbors growing up was a babysitter. The kids would play in the backyard, go in to eat lunch, take a nap then would be back outside playing. And the baby sitter would pop her head out the door every once in awhile to make sure no one was doing anything they were not supposed to.
Im sure today the idea of letting someone's kids play outside for 3, 4 hours a day during the summer would be a big issue, but when you are a kid the whether doesn't impact you as much. I remember times it was cold as hell outside and being out there will short sleeves on and as long there was other kids outside playing I didn't even notice it.. My mom would call me to come put on a jacket or something and I would tell her I wasn't cold.. But then the second everyone got tired of playing all of a sudden the cold would hit you...
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:00 pm to fallguy_1978
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Daycare - growing up I didn't know any kids that went to daycare
Me and my sister were left home alone during the summer starting when I was 5 and she was 7. Try that nowadays and you'd lose your kids to CPS
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:02 pm to chryso
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But to go with the thread, pork neck bones to put in a soup or sauce. The butcher used to give these away. Now they cost as much as pork chops.
Talk about. I used to get tongue and temple meat for cheap.
Now they are expensive as crap
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:09 pm to Packer
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Me and my sister were left home alone during the summer starting when I was 5 and she was 7. Try that nowadays and you'd lose your kids to CPS
Same. I don't know if we were quite that young, but we definitely never went to daycare, nor did anyone I know. We stayed home all summer when we were like 10, 8 and 6 and my older sister was "in charge"
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:10 pm to sidewalkside
Chicken wings. In 1981 I worked at a meat market. We could not give them away. Now you swear they were filets.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:15 pm to sidewalkside
Since we are talking a few generations ago. How about electricity, trash pickup, sewage, AC?
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:17 pm to Displaced
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None of these are things you have to pay for...
Separating a fool from his money is easier now than it’s ever been.
Throw paint a symbol and some color and watch them fight over it.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:18 pm to sidewalkside
TD Premium
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:21 pm to LoneStar23
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Don't finance phones
The major companies finance phones at 0% interest
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:22 pm to sidewalkside
Cell phones - $250/device every 3-4 years ($6.95/mo)
Cell phone plan - $10/mo per device
Internet - $25/mo
Streaming - $36/mo
That is my comparison for my Family of 5.
Cell phone plan - $10/mo per device
Internet - $25/mo
Streaming - $36/mo
That is my comparison for my Family of 5.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:22 pm to sidewalkside
Eating out aside... just buying cheap groceries is not easy.
Even processed crap is expensive. That whole eating out argument is dumb because the costs are very close unless you eating sandwiches and red beans every night.
Even processed crap is expensive. That whole eating out argument is dumb because the costs are very close unless you eating sandwiches and red beans every night.
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