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re: AC unit went out and needs R-22

Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
72522 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:49 pm to
Had the same issue in March.

Ours crapped out and we just decided to replace the unit and not worry about it anymore. Now that it’s getting hot I’m VERY glad we did.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
11526 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:51 pm to
I have a R22 unit as well. Better to replace it cause R22 prices are over the moon (I think he quoted like $100 a pound).
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Well they've replaced the newer freon than r22 also so I would say you did well. Goes into effect in January.

An AC guy told me this new stuff is going to be a disaster. It’s explosive past a certain temperature. The regulations’ penalties are Draconian. I’m not remembering all he showed me. Maybe an AC contractor can elaborate.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21137 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:52 pm to
Are you new to HVAC?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
38789 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Not gonna lie I’m shocked to hear that. Unless it’s the bullshite “assembled in the USA with global materials”



i am sure they source materials from everywhere

Daiken/goodman plant is outside of Houston

Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
4397 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:56 pm to
Yeah the capacitors are cheap. I've done a little work with a relative of mine to help him out sometimes and I've billed people $150 for the service and capacitor. Made me feel a little guilty at times. Especially billing old people
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
3049 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:05 pm to
They make an alternative to R22, I think it is a tan bottle. I have the same issue at my Mom's. I got a 30lb jug a few years back.
Posted by Gauxt
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2013
356 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:08 pm to
I just happen to have a jug of R-22 if you're interested.
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1207 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

hasn’t given us any trouble in literally years.


Didn’t you move to the mountains 2 years ago? Also you told us you’re looking to buy a house and are renting a townhouse. Why is the AC unit a renter’s responsibility?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70920 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:10 pm to
You can get compatible freon. I had a leak and kept adding for years. 507 I think.
Thigh I can but r22 as well. Look on Amazon and ebay.
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
2337 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:16 pm to
Have your AC guy buy you a drum of 427A. Dumps right on top of 22 and ain’t gotta change shite. There are loop holes around everything, even our silly arse gubmint.
Posted by Nathan Arizona
Member since Mar 2024
12 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:16 pm to
Red Angel leak repair can
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2499 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

have a carrier that’s 50 years old,


Great , I can expect my carrier to last another 30.
Posted by FutureCorridor49
US 90
Member since May 2023
551 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:24 pm to
Yeah well my 5 year old Lennox just crapped out. Don’t get one of those. Giant POS
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11212 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Currently we have a carrier that’s 50 years old


Damn, it's almost old enough to apply for its AARP card.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18076 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:34 pm to
Frick the EPA, the Federal Government, radical environmentalists, politicians who allow this, and dumbasses who buy into the whole "climate change emergency" crap.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15675 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

since the new, replacement gases have a 2L flammability rating, you cannot retro older units to receive the new refrigerant since the UL rating on the equipment was tested for a 2L gas.


Does this mean you would have to have new piping from the outside unit to the inside (if you have a split system). I have a brick house but on a crawlspace so I could run new copper.

But someone with a slab would be screwed.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
60748 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Daiken/goodman plant is outside of Houston

4,000,000sf. Largest tilt-wall construction in the world.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2614 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

$1600-$1800 is what it cost's an EPA certified tech to purchase a 30 lb jug of recycled R-22. Roughly $55 a pound. They'll likely charge you $200-$300 a pound to charge your unit.


I've got probably 20 pounds in a bottle I've had for years and it's not recycled. It's sitting in my garage.

Interesting...
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
1963 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:15 pm to
407C ??
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