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About The EBRP Library System & It's Property Tax

Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:13 pm
Posted by ronniep1
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
481 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:13 pm
Because the library tax renewal came up in another post, I thought it would be easier to address some of the issues that were raised in a new post:

1. The current tax millage, which was approved in 2015, began at 11.1 mills. Since then, it has been rolled back twice, and is currently at 9.89 mills. The new proposed millage rate is 10.51, and it too is expected to be rolled back twice in the new 10 year cycle.

2. Here's why the tax was rolled back: if in 2016, 11.1 mills produced $45 million in revenue, and because property generally appreciates in value, the tax is reduced, or rolled back, to a number that theoretically will generate the same $45 million.

3. I'm not in front of a computer as I write this, but of the library's roughly $100 million fund balance, $50 million is set aside for 2026 operations. The other $50 million is reserved for building new facilities, remodeling existing branches as they age, and funding unexpected expenses (roofs, A/C systems, etc)

4. Regarding new buildings, or new construction, a new South Branch, located in the Rouzan development, is practically complete from a construction standpoint; currently, shelving, desks, and other furniture is being delivered and assembled as needed, shelves are being filled with books and other materials, and computers and other electronic equipment is being installed. This branch is expected to open in very early March.

5. The only other "new" branch, currently in the discussion and planning phase, is a satellite or mini-branch at the old Earl K Long hospital site. This branch will be constructed in conjunction with other planned developments on the property, so if/when construction takes place has yet to be determined.

6. Some may consider this word parsing, or splitting hairs, but the Library Board is looking for property to replace/rebuild the Delmont Gardens branch. This facility was originally opened in the 80's, and added onto in the 90's, I think (again, I'm not in front of a computer to confirm this). The original building is now 40 years old, and much has changed in the way libraries are perceived and used in that time. Between the cost of remodeling, and bringing the building up to current building codes for plumbing, electrical, etc, the board determined that a new building would cost approximately the same amount, and would give the public a bigger "bang for the buck."

7. Other branches are being remodeled and upgraded based on oldest to newest. Just as tastes change, and the way we use our homes has changed over time, so too have libraries changed. Meeting and study rooms are being added, wiring and electronics are upgraded, and sadly for our society, security concerns and systems are being addressed and modified.

8. As someone already stated below, the Library is a pay-as-you-go system. Whether new construction or remodels, construction bills are paid as the work takes place. The Library system has no debt, aka no interest payments on any loans. Likewise, if a hurricane, flood, or other disaster affects a building, those invoices are paid promptly as repairs take place.

9. The library system is much more than a book repository. There are CD's, DVD's, and many other resources available. The Baton Rouge room has both genealogy and local historical items and information available. Bookmobiles make visits to daycare centers, headstart class rooms, and nursing home/senior centers. Maker spaces teach everything from sewing to robotics, allowing individuals to try new things, and learn new skills, without investing in what can sometimes be expensive equipment. For those who are unemployed, the Job Center helps people update a resume and posts job listings. And, the library pays for database subscriptions that would cost individuals sometimes hundreds per year, and provides them free to patrons.

There's more, but because I've already written a short novel, I'll stop for now. However, as a member of the Library Board of Control, I'll answer or address any other questions or concerns you may have.

TL;DR - the library property tax, and how it is used, is not a short and simple answer. Please see above for more info.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14427 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:21 pm to
Thoughts and prayers.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56786 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:23 pm to
Coach Sid and trump are gonna shut down all the libraries


They’re always hiring in the oilfield
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
199 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:37 pm to
Thank you for the informative post. The library system here is amazing. A lot of people who think it’s just books would be amazed.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40103 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

5. The only other "new" branch, currently in the discussion and planning phase, is a satellite or mini-branch at the old Earl K Long hospital site. This branch will be constructed in conjunction with other planned developments on the property, so if/when construction takes place has yet to be determined.


According to the Library Board they are planning for the EKL project, one West of Gardere and another at thd juvenile detention center.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8496 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:39 pm to
In practice it is an extremely expensive community center. The budget should be cut by 75% and half of the branches should be closed.

But it is still only 4th or 5th on the list of insane wastes of money in EBR.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2593 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

of the library's roughly $100 million fund balance
are you fricking kidding me? 100 million fricking dollars for a few god damn books that nobody will read anyway? For one god damn city whose literacy rate is dog shite? Is this for fricking real?

Here’s an idea, get a kindle delivered to every man woman and child in EBR

Get them a books unlimited subscription that goes with it. And the audible addon


Way more people would use those, and it’s save $99 fricking million

Holy frick what a fricking waste of money
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8496 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

Here’s an idea, get a kindle delivered to every man woman and child in EBR

Get them a books unlimited subscription that goes with it. And the audible addon



$99M / 450k citizens = $220 each.
New kindle = $109
Kindle unlimited sub = $144

Don't tell me we couldn't work out a discount.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
53328 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

New kindle = $109
how many will have to be replaced within days?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29907 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

Kindle unlimited sub = $144

The e-book selection the EBR library system offers for free is vastly more extensive than what's on Kindle Unlimited.

EBR has an amazing library system. Anytime I see someone trash it, I immediately know they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Not dissimilar to the BR airport, actually.
Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
733 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:50 pm to
Seems like a lot of trouble to provide a place for the homeless and drug addicts to BM.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19514 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:55 pm to
Let’s talk about the massive clusterfrick cost overrun that is that downtown branch with the stupid cantilever design. Let’s also discuss the fact that 70% of the patrons in that place are homeless who look at porn on the computers and take baths in the restrooms.

Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
53328 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:58 pm to


All real cities have downtown libraries. I guess the argument could be made as to whether Baton Rouge is a real city or not.

I worked at that branch for two years, it was interesting. Porn was not allowed at that time, but interestingly enough - a patron is allowed to look at porn at the state library (which is also a waste of money)
Posted by The People
LSU Alumni
Member since Aug 2008
4354 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:01 pm to
Great post.

Unfortunately present times demand funding be immediately redirected to stop the spread of violent crime.

Surely you understand.

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29907 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Great post.

Unfortunately present times demand funding be immediately redirected to stop the spread of violent crime.

Surely you understand.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why organizations fight so hard for a dedicated millage. The library's money ain't getting redirected to a damned thing
Posted by ronniep1
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
481 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:37 pm to
If the B. R. Library system is full of "G-D books that no one will read," why then, according to another post, is Barnes and Noble adding 60 new stores this year? Though you might argue (key word "might") that the library system is a government department, and therefore is not accountable to the public at large, what about Barnes and Noble? B & N is a for profit company; why would they add more buildings, more employees, spend more on inventory, and add more maintenance/upkeep costs if people are no longer reading books? And again, the library is so much more than just shelves filled with dead trees.

I'd urge anyone interested to go to the Library's web site, www.ebrpl.com, and review the statistics that are updated monthly and annually. While you and others in your social circle may not visit the library, gate counts confirm that you'd be surprised at how many EBRP citizens utilize the library and it's services.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10502 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:00 pm to
Only book kids need is the Bible and they can get that in school
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2073 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:23 pm to
Penn Jillette once gave a speech where he was talking about his view of government and said something along the lines of "Would I use a gun to stop a murder or rape or protect my loved ones? Yeah. Would I use the threat of a gun to build a library? No." And he went on to say how important he thinks libraries are and how he would give his money to them, encourage others to give their money to them, but he draws the line at forcibly taking money from people to build the library.

I think it's pretty spot on.

The OP brings up all kinds of points that on their face are wonderful. It's wonderful that the library is debt free. I wonder what else would be too had they had the funding. It's wonderful that there's beautiful new libraries being built and new renovations planned. The services they provide, the gate numbers - wonderful.

But why does it have to take in so much money? Why do we need another new library? I'm sorry but to a lot of us property owners it feels like an unnecessary expense. Why does the burden have to fall on us? We know our emergency services are struggling. Why must we keep hearing the propaganda of "you should be thankful we have such a wonder library system" when the money issue comes up. No the library system should be thankful we bust our asses to pay for the grift. Rouzan needs a library? Rouzan?!! And Central, and Zachary, and St. George property owners need to foot the bill??! Come on. It's bullshite. Things like the EBRPL should not be allowed on the ballot. People who will never pay for it will vote to make the property owners pay for it everytime.

But we should be thankful.... aside from books they also have cds!
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4571 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Let’s also discuss the fact that 70% of the patrons in that place are homeless who look at porn on the computers


Funny, I encountered more people looking at Tigerdroppings (unrestricted) than pornographic material (pretty well blocked) at the public computers in EBRPL.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
1427 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:06 pm to
Since we could arm every man, woman, and child in EBR with a kindle and unlimited subscription to everything readable in the known universe for less, the advantage in brick and mortar libraries is what? Some meeting rooms? Some cd’s and dvd’s most already pay equal to or less than the millages to have at their fingertips in an ap on their tv/phone? Some summer programming for the kiddos that BREC (let’s not get started on their budgeting) also already provides?

Pro library arguments when made tend to center on other ancillary things that other city facilities or services provide in a duplicative manner beyond access to visual or audio content, as it’s increasingly hard to make the arguments libraries are the most cost effective tools to get audio/visual content in public hands.

The compendium of overfunded, nonessential nonsense in EBR (see CoA, BREC, CATS, etc) occurring in the face of constantly underfunded essential functions (public safety, infrastructure) show how tone deaf and absolutely out of touch the library millage people are.
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