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re: A "Why isn't NOLA East bustling?" story that takes 35 paragraphs before mentioning "crime"

Posted on 4/23/21 at 8:21 am to
Posted by arseinclarse
Algiers Purnt
Member since Apr 2007
34432 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 8:21 am to
I'm a product of the Nola East glory days.

Come at me.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
7723 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 8:25 am to
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At the end of the day, people in that area need to truly care about that area. If you don’t have some semblance of pride and respect, why should anyone else feel that way towards you?


I hate to say this, but one problem is a good bit of people in those areas expect the Government to take care of them and do everything for them.

A perfect example is something that happened in Shreveport a few years ago. A tornado went through parts of West Shreveport. It tore up some privacy fences and knocked down a few trees. A lot of that debris wasn’t cleaned up for months because the residents expected the city to come do it for them.

Meanwhile the same storm hit parts of Benton and did damage. The residents there got off their asses and helps each other clean up. Most of the debris was gone in less than a week.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5164 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 8:45 am to
This highlights the obvious avoidance of the real issues in these type of areas, a la N BR. For decades folks have been placing the blame of the conditions of these areas on anyone/anything else other than what it is. As a community, these folks have allowed their area to become cesspools. But why? It had to have started small - so why wasn’t it addressed then. No amount of blaming cops, other races, lack of grocery stores, lack of “programs”, etc. is going to fix it. When do the “leaders” of these communities say “let’s do what we can to lift ourselves up before putting blame on others”?
Posted by CP
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2008
239 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:00 am to
I had some good times at the arcade in the Plaza back in the day. Can’t forget the Orange Julius too.
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:02 am to
Not clicking the link, but only Will Sutton would write something so intellectually dishonest.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:03 am to
Maybe the burning cars and Mogadishu-like violence?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27725 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:08 am to
To be fair, the area has something like 1 grocery store. I can remember when I was a kid there were 4 grocery stores on Crowder between Morrison and Lake Forest. Ferrera Yeager, Bon Marche IGA, Winn Dixie and Canal Villere. On Read you had Phil's, up by Chef you had Winn Dixie. Later on Bullard there was a Winn Dixie, followed a few years later by a big Schwegmann's and there was an A&P at Kenilworth. So 9 grocery stores in the mid '80s. By the mid to late 90s most were gone.... oh yeah, I forgot the Delchamps at Read and the Service Rd.

I can remember a time when Lake Forest Blvd was bustling with businesses from Bundy to Read. There was good dining out there as well. Ro Je was out there. Croziers had their start on Lak Forest.Sclafanis on Hayne was very good. Spinellis started in a strip center and then moved to where Souther Oaks is today that used to be the LeBoeufs House. On Read you also had Jade East which was a very good Chinese Restaurant and in Deer Park at Read and Lake Forest there was a really good steak place. Not to mention Shakeys and Godfathers Pizza. Augies Tower of Pizza on Downman was excellent. They have been long gone.....way before Katrina.

Johnny Jackson became Councilman in the mid 80s after redrawing districts and then advocated moving Desire into the apartments out there along with others from the lower 9. It destroyed the area in under 5 years. The death blow really came in February of 91 when there was an execution style murder at the Thursday night parade before Mardi Gras....after that houses went up for sale FAST and the money left as well.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27725 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:09 am to
Pavones Pizza....end of discussion
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155890 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:11 am to
Discount zone chicken 2 piece for 99 cents
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26038 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:14 am to
I strongly disagree with the premise of this article that New Orleans East doesn't have a flourishing economy.

It has several very successful automobile fulfillment fencing and shipping centers located in the area that employ hundreds of New Orleans residents as independent contractors.

Almonaster is the headquarters for all junk cars in New Orleans.

It has a thriving underground hip-hop music scene.

The area employs more crime scene clean-up specialists than any other location in the Gulf-South.

It has an IHOP off of I-10.

And it has the last vestiges of the Old South for the residents to celebrate their weddings at the Southern Oaks Plantation.

I think these people are still suffering from the loss of Shakeys Pizza and Bennie's Sporting Goods.
This post was edited on 4/23/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27725 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:18 am to
The automobile fencing fulfillment centers have always been a feature out there along Chef Hwy and back into Almonaster. Johnny DJ could have a car stripped and processed in about 3 hours....he was that good and that was in the late 80s.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27725 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:22 am to
Bennies is a name I had forgotten. I used to go there once a week during the summer for fishing lures and the like. The I would go over to Perry's Pharmacy to get a coke and Mr. Ernie would always just wave off us paying...of course my brothers and I were friends with his kids...still am.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28592 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:31 am to
Systemic racism.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26038 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:36 am to
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Johnny Jackson became Councilman in the mid 80s after redrawing districts and then advocated moving Desire into the apartments out there along with others from the lower 9. It destroyed the area in under 5 years. The death blow really came in February of 91 when there was an execution style murder at the Thursday night parade before Mardi Gras....after that houses went up for sale FAST and the money left as well.


If only Wayne Babovich, hadn't beaten out Ron Faucheaux, in the runoff and then promptly ended up in federal pen for political corruption New Orleans East might have stood a chance. Instead he allowed Jackson in as the councilman and the place plunged into oblivion.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20254 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:42 am to
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I remember being in board meetings about it with them and shaking my head at the corruption.

Go on
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:50 am to
They always say there’s a food desert but how many people there live more than 1 mile from a grocery store? It’s walkable and there’s public transportation.

There are rural areas in EBR that don’t have that.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27725 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 9:52 am to
Faucheaux is a good guy. Babovich still remains just slightly above the sleazy level.
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
5395 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 10:05 am to
The most surprising thing from that article is the East is still 4% white. Guessing they're in Eastover or the area off of Wright Rd.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41234 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 10:05 am to
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Why hasn’t the city been able to attract stores, restaurants and other businesses to the East like they have in other areas of the city?



if the author of that article doesn't know the answer, she isn't qualified for her job
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7139 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 10:08 am to
Going to da East next week to go catch some canebrake rattlers. Bringing my gun. Hoping I don’t lose my life or my truck. Zero fear of the rattlesnakes - mucho fear of da East.

ETA: Also hitting Visions this weekend - likewise, bringing my gun.
This post was edited on 4/23/21 at 10:10 am
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