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A rebuttal to Brown University’s letter on racism in the United States

Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:05 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:05 pm
From an AA economic professor

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Last week, in the aftermath of the national fury that has erupted, and continues, over the apparent killing by a Minneapolis police officer of a black man, George Floyd, while he was being taken into custody, a letter appeared in my inbox from Christina H. Paxson, president of Brown University, where I teach. The letter, sent to thousands of students, staff, and faculty, was cosigned by many of Brown’s senior administrators and deans.

“We write to you today as leaders of this university,” the letter begins, “to express first deep sadness, but also anger, regarding the racist incidents that continue to cut short the lives of black people every day.” It continues:

The sadness comes from knowing that this is not a mere moment for our country. This is historical, lasting and persistent. Structures of power, deep-rooted histories of oppression, as well as prejudice, outright bigotry and hate, directly and personally affect the lives of millions of people in this nation every minute and every hour. Black people continue to live in fear for themselves, their children and their communities, at times in fear of the very systems and structures that are supposed to be in place to ensure safety and justice.


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I found the letter deeply disturbing, and was moved to compose the following response, which I shared with a colleague. I’m happy now to share it as well with City Journal’s readership.


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Dear ____:

I was disturbed by the letter from Brown’s senior administration. It was obviously the product of a committee—Professors XX and YY, or someone of similar sensibility, wrote a manifesto, to which the president and senior administrative leadership have dutifully affixed their names.

I wondered why such a proclamation was necessary. Either it affirmed platitudes to which we can all subscribe, or, more menacingly, it asserted controversial and arguable positions as though they were axiomatic certainties. It trafficked in the social-justice warriors’ pedantic language and sophomoric nostrums. It invoked “race” gratuitously and unreflectively at every turn. It often presumed what remains to be established. It often elided pertinent differences between the many instances cited. It read in part like a loyalty oath. It declares in every paragraph: “We Hold These Truths to Be Self-Evident.”


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And just what truths are these? The main one: that racial domination and “white supremacy” define our national existence even now, a century and a half after the end of slavery.

I deeply resented the letter. First of all, what makes an administrator (even a highly paid one, with an exalted title) a “leader” of this university? We, the faculty, are the only “leaders” worthy of mention when it comes to the realm of ideas. Who cares what some paper-pushing apparatchik thinks? It’s all a bit creepy and unsettling. Why must this university’s senior administration declare, on behalf of the institution as a whole and with one voice, that they unanimously—without any subtle differences of emphasis or nuance—interpret contentious current events through a single lens?


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They write sentences such as this: “We have been here before, and in fact have never left.” Really? This is nothing but propaganda. Is it supposed to be self-evident that every death of an “unarmed black man” at the hands of a white person tells the same story? They speak of “deep-rooted systems of oppression; legacies of hate.” No elaboration required here? No specification of where Brown might stand within such a system? No nuance or complexity? Is it obvious that “hate”—as opposed to incompetence, or fear, or cruelty, or poor training, or lack of accountability, or a brutal police culture, or panic, or malfeasance —is what we observed in Minneapolis? We are called upon to “effect change.” Change from what to what, exactly? Evidently, we’re now all charged to promote the policy agenda of the “progressive” wing of American politics. Is this what a university is supposed to be doing?


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I must object. This is no reasoned ethical reflection. Rather, it is indoctrination, virtue-signaling, and the transparent currying of favor with our charges. The roster of Brown’s “leaders” who signed this manifesto in lockstep remind me of a Soviet Politburo making some party-line declaration. I can only assume that the point here is to forestall any student protests by declaring the university to be on the Right Side of History.


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What I found most alarming, though, is that no voice was given to what one might have thought would be a university’s principal intellectual contribution to the national debate at this critical moment: namely, to affirm the primacy of reason over violence in calibrating our reactions to the supposed “oppression.” Equally troubling were our president’s promises to focus the university’s instructional and research resources on “fighting for social justice” around the world, without any mention of the problematic and ambiguous character of those movements which, over the past two centuries or more, have self-consciously defined themselves in just such terms—from the French and Russian Revolutions through the upheavals of the 1960s.

My bottom line: I’m offended by the letter. It frightens, saddens, and angers me.

Sincerely,
Glenn


Get this baw a fricking jacket!
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 7:01 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50968 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:08 pm to
Somebody is going to respond with Alexis's "essay" from that social media backlash thread from earlier.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:09 pm to
Say goodbye to Hollywood. Say goodbye my baby
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41906 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:09 pm to
Orwell undershot the mark
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:10 pm to
The entire thing is disrespectful to hardworking African Americans everywhere. They are telling black people that they aren’t strong enough to succeed or overcome on their own.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139241 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:11 pm to
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They write sentences such as this: “We have been here before, and in fact have never left.” Really? This is nothing but propaganda. Is it supposed to be self-evident that every death of an “unarmed black man” at the hands of a white person tells the same story? They speak of “deep-rooted systems of oppression; legacies of hate.” No elaboration required here? No specification of where Brown might stand within such a system? No nuance or complexity? Is it obvious that “hate”—as opposed to incompetence, or fear, or cruelty, or poor training, or lack of accountability, or a brutal police culture, or panic, or malfeasance —is what we observed in Minneapolis? We are called upon to “effect change.” Change from what to what, exactly? Evidently, we’re now all charged to promote the policy agenda of the “progressive” wing of American politics. Is this what a university is supposed to be doing?

This is the most pertinent part of the letter. These people speak in platitudes as if they're concrete ideas or solutions. They're intentionally ambiguous to keep the believers constantly chasing an unattainable/impossible end goal or to keep the impression that something is being done beyond regurgitating talking points.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:11 pm to

Professor Loury
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88468 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:18 pm to
There may be hope after all.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36640 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:20 pm to
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over the apparent killing by




Nothing "apparent" about it.


It was a killing.




The question is: was it murder?
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 6:22 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139241 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:22 pm to
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There may be hope after all.

You'll probably retract that statement after this guy's crucifixion is complete
Posted by Hope Seternal
parts unknown
Member since Nov 2012
594 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:54 pm to
Poor guy will probably get drummed out of the university community.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:58 pm to
A little background on this man:

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Glenn Cartman Loury (born September 3, 1948) is an American economist, academic, and author. In 1982, at age 33, he became the first black tenured professor of economics in the history of Harvard University. He is the Merton P. Stoltz Professor of the Social Sciences and Professor of Economics at Brown University.[2]


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In 1984, Loury drew the attention of critics with "A New American Dilemma", published in The New Republic, where he addressed what he terms "fundamental failures in black society" such as "the lagging academic performance of black students, the disturbingly high rate of black-on-black crime, and the alarming increase in early unwed pregnancies among blacks."


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In 1987, Loury's career continued its ascent when he was selected to be the next Undersecretary of Education, a position which would have made him the second-highest-ranking black person in the Reagan administration. However, Loury withdrew from consideration on June 1, three days before being charged with assault after a "lover's quarrel" with a 23-year-old woman.[6] Loury was later arrested for possession of cocaine.[7]

After a subsequent period of seclusion and self-reflection, Loury reemerged as a born-again Christian and described himself as a "black progressive".[8] Loury left Harvard in 1991 to go to Boston University, where he headed the Institute on Race and Social Division. In 2005, Loury left Boston University for Brown University, where he was named a professor in the Economics Department, and a research associate of the Population Studies and Training Center.


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Loury's areas of study include applied microeconomic theory: welfare economics, game theory, industrial organization, natural resource economics, and the economics of income distribution.[3] In addition to economics, he has also written extensively on the themes of racial inequality and social policy.[9]


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He is a supporter of the 1776 Project.[11]

Loury was elected as a member of the Econometric Society in 1994, a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2000, and a member of the American Philosophical Society in 2011.[12][13][14] Loury is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:00 pm to
A rebuttal to this post:

TLDR
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:02 pm to
I hope Glenn has tenure. Although, at Brown, it probably doesn't matter one way or the other here.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 7:03 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

A rebuttal to this post:

TLDR


Sorry big words and a few paragraphs hurt your brain.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13803 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:08 pm to
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Nothing "apparent" about it.


It was a killing.




The question is: was it murder?


No question he died. There is some question about whether the cop killed him directly or indirectly, intentionally or unintentionally.

In Minnesota, Murder 3 is Unintentional Death caused by reckless disregard for the consequences of your actions....That seems reasonable.

But he was charged with Murder 2. That is Unintentional Death caused by reckless disregard for the consequences of your actions while in the commission of another felony

For the life of me I cannot figure out what the other felony was or is.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1485 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:13 pm to
Good stuff.

I learned what elided means.

elide[ ih-lahyd ]
verb (used with object), e·lid·ed, e·lid·ing.
to omit (a vowel, consonant, or syllable) in pronunciation.
to suppress; omit; ignore; pass over.
Law. to annul or quash.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 7:18 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

A rebuttal to this post:

TLDR


I swear some of y’all would’ve had this same answer to the fricking Declaration of Independence.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15342 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:29 pm to
This man is brilliant.
It is a shame that the most powerful African-American intellectuals are only well-regarded by Caucasians and others ; Dr. Glenn, Dr. Williams, Dr. Sowell, Dr. Alan Keyes, Justice Thomas.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38396 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:32 pm to
Outstanding. City Journal is a great publication. Maybe they can hire Duhe from Loyola after she was just persecuted out of a job.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 7:35 pm
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