re: A Priest Briefly Died and Went to Hell. This is What He Saw.

Why do theist and atheist even argue. According to each other we both do whatever we want and are both wrong.

Lol point being humans are going to do whatever the frick they want to do at the end of the day.

The issue with letting society rule however, is becoming evident in today’s America.

“God” may not be the answer, but neither is whatever the frick we are doing right now.

Kids are killing themselves, dressing up like animals and behaving like them, live streaming rapes, changing sex, and popping pills in middle school at all time highs because they let society rule.

Society says those things are cool to do. We need better parenting whether god is involved or not. In 30 years things will be legal that shouldn’t be.

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Theists frequently argue that without religion, everyone would rape and murder.

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You possess a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem that Christianity seeks to solve. I cannot speak for other religions on this matter.

A wise Christian would never assert that you need religion to live a moral life.

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it’s well documented that they insist you need to give money for them to continue to give you a place to listen to them.

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I've never heard this before and I've attended many different parishes.

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It’s highly likely that you “have no desire” to rape, kill, steal for many of the same reasons I do. We live fairly comfortable lives with no real enemies or threats.

It’s far more likely that you wouldn’t commit those crimes because you don’t want to risk going to prison. Not because you’re such an amazingly moral person. But you aren’t likely to admit that in this thread.

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You added this in your edit, so I'll address it separately:

I have no desire to rape, period. I find it interesting that you quietly changed the term from "murder" to "kill". I have no desire to murder, period. I would obviously kill if compelled to, but that's not murder.

Stealing is a bit of a different animal, as it's not a crime directly in violation of another person, even though theft obviously has people as victims. I have no desire to steal, but I obviously have desires to possess. Does the legal system have an impact on the fact that I ultimately choose not to steal? Maybe, but I'd like to think that I wouldn't steal regardless, simply because I wouldn't want others to steal from me.

Then your post takes a strange turn in your second paragraph, where you abandon your position that neither of us have a desire to "rape, kill, or steal", and instead shift back into ad hominem nonsense. I never said I was an amazingly moral person. In fact, I'm arguing quite the opposite: I believe the average human being has no desire to rape or murder anyone. I don't believe I'm special in that respect. And if you're being honest, neither do you.

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You possess a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem that Christianity seeks to solve. I cannot speak for other religions on this matter.

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No, I don't. I have no issue with Christians or Christianity. My line of posts on this thread are specifically geared to the extremely common argument I've heard from theists that, without religion, there would be no reason not to rape and murder with abandon.

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A wise Christian would never assert that you need religion to live a moral life.

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I agree with you. The problem is that so few Christians seem to possess that level of wisdom. The world would be a much better place if they did.

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Went to Hell

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Just go go New Orleans or Chicago at night…same thing.

While this story sounds like something out of Hollywood it does make you wonder about heaven and hell. No one is going to hell for the particular sins they commit. We are all sinners of varying degrees. People go to hell because they reject the one and only provision God has made to forgive us our sins, and that is thru belief in the finished work of Christ on the cross for us. If you haven’t trusted Jesus yet with your eternal fate then you are one day closer to seeing the reality of hell, whatever it‘s really like. God bless you all. Tetelestai.

We should all be so lucky as to have such a "wake-up call".

It's frightening to think about how near Death is to each of us. We are constantly cautioned by spiritual thinkers and writers to be ready to die. It would be wise not to ignore them.

This old guy has a dream and some people are taking this as legit?

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Might not be something he did

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He's Catholic. That dude is going to hell.