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re: A hundred school shootings a year wouldn't change my mind
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:42 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:42 am to SammyTiger
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I thought Most gun owners were law abiding citizens.
We are. The highest law says our right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:48 am to magildachunks
How was duvic’s tonight
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:49 am to Sun God
kind of dead.
perfect for an after work wind down, honestly.
perfect for an after work wind down, honestly.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:51 am to TDFreak
I’m for less government and against strict gun control however I like to read things from historical view. But zero school shootings since they made stricter gun control laws.
quote:
Penned by a group from Scotland who’d endured a similar tragedy 22 years prior, the missive offered both a show of solidarity and a vision for the future. Referencing their successful campaign for gun reform, the letter’s authors wrote, “Laws were changed, handguns were banned and the level of gun violence in Britain is now one of the lowest in the world.” Since the 1996 Dunblane massacre, they pointed out, “[t]here have been no more school shootings” in the United Kingdom.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:51 am to SammyTiger
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I thought Most gun owners were law abiding citizens.
If you want them so bad and think it will make a difference.
Come take my guns. Do something instead of posting on the internet. I promise you that isn't doing a thing.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 12:52 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:54 am to TigerGM
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I’m for less government and against strict gun control however I like to read things from historical view. But zero school shootings since they made stricter gun control laws.
You should read more about the UK
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:57 am to magildachunks
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:03 am to magildachunks
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Columbine happened my senior year.
Happened during the 1994 - 2004 Assault Weapons Ban too.
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It was the first incident that ignited a call for change though.
bullshite. Kennedy's assassination precipitated the 1968 GCA.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:07 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:The US is both one of the most religious and most violent first world countries. Almost all of the least violent countries in the world are more secular than we are. So if you insist that it's a religious thing, we need less of it, not more.
18 year old killing 19 kids and 2 adults is not a gun problem. It’s indicative of a lack of God problem.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:09 am to magildachunks
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Not true.
It is most certainly true. The statistics are right there for you to see.
These types of mass shootings were extremely rare until recently, and even more rare at schools. Yet we had the same access to firearms.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:11 am to Korkstand
Why can’t we be more like Norway
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:16 am to TigreB77
Less guns it is
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 1:19 am
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:32 am to Vamos Brandonos
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A hundred school shootings a year wouldn't change my mind
There are about 100,000 schools in the country. 0.1% experiencing a mass homicide by firearm is not enough to persuade most to try government regulation.
At that low percentage, most would probably still send their kids to school in the morning, new gun laws or not. That’s reasonable or at least debatably reasonable.
But is there a percentage that would make you change your stance? In an extreme example, let’s say 8% of schools would experience a mass shooting this year - same as rolling snake eyes. Is it still reasonable to send your kids to school if rolling snake eyes meant they’d be killed or witness killing at school in a given year?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:20 am to Vamos Brandonos
People need to come together to find a solution. That often involves compromise. Whether it’s here, MSM, or social media, it’s clear nobody wants to do that.
100 shootings a year means that your kid will need to avoid roughly 1200 shootings within school walls to graduate.
100 shootings a year means that your kid will need to avoid roughly 1200 shootings within school walls to graduate.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:30 am to TexasTiger08
100 shootings a year at roughy (to make the math easy) 100,000 US schools is 0.1%. That’s a 99.9% chance of being unscathed.
After 12 years of school, that’s a 98.8% chance of being unscathed. 0.999^12.
My question is: what percentage is reasonable before we agree to try something?
After 12 years of school, that’s a 98.8% chance of being unscathed. 0.999^12.
My question is: what percentage is reasonable before we agree to try something?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:33 am to victoire sécurisé
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There are about 100,000 schools in the country. 0.1% experiencing a mass homicide by firearm is not enough to persuade most to try government regulation.
This may come as a surprise to you but we have government regulation of guns.
And fentanyl. How’s that one working out?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:49 am to rltiger
A few years ago, near my home, there was a car with - I think - 8 kids and 2 adults in it that went into the opposite lane, hit another vehicle head on, and burst into flames. Everyone in the car died. So ban highways - ban cars - or both?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:50 am to TigerGM
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I’m for less government and against strict gun control however I like to read things from historical view. But zero school shootings since they made stricter gun control laws.
since you appreciate the historical view... how many mass shootings in schools were there in scotland before dunblane? i think the number is in the neighborhood of very low to 0. id think that event was more of an outlier than something stamped out by legislation.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:58 am to Robin Masters
Robin Master of avoiding questions, incapable of reasonable discussion.
Part of the problem with debate in this country is because there’s no possibility of discussion with anti-government gun zealots.
You start with the proposition that no government regulation is effective because Fentanyl kills at an alarming rate. And that’s it. End of discussion.
So back to the original question, what percentage of schools would need to be shot up before you would ask congress to pass more strict gun legislation? Your answer is “Don’t care. Won’t work.” Thanks for your input.
Part of the problem with debate in this country is because there’s no possibility of discussion with anti-government gun zealots.
You start with the proposition that no government regulation is effective because Fentanyl kills at an alarming rate. And that’s it. End of discussion.
So back to the original question, what percentage of schools would need to be shot up before you would ask congress to pass more strict gun legislation? Your answer is “Don’t care. Won’t work.” Thanks for your input.
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