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re: 737max crashes in Ethiopia. Killing 157
Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:30 pm to Soup Sammich
Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:30 pm to Soup Sammich
quote:
I have a fear of plane crashes and I’ve never even flown on a plane
Neither have I.
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:32 pm to rantfan
quote:Well he won’t be around to regret that either.
Unless it crashes
Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:46 pm to Scruffy
Oldest plane I've ever worked on was from '62
Our gunships at the base I was at were all Vietnam era
Our gunships at the base I was at were all Vietnam era
Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:12 pm to RedRifle
US Embassy Security Bulletin (March 8)
Security Bulletin from March 8.
Location: Meskel Square in Addis Ababa and the Oromia Region
Event: The U.S. Embassy is aware of calls for a protest to be held on Sunday, March 10, 2019 at Meskel Square. It is unknown whether the protest has been or will be approved by Ethiopian authorities. Protests have already occurred in many parts of the Oromia region since March 6, and additional protests may materialize.
U.S. Embassy personnel are advised to avoid Meskel Square and limit movement around Addis Ababa on Sunday, March 10. U.S. Government travelers have been advised not to arrive or depart Bole International Airport on Sunday, March 10, and U.S. Embassy personnel are also temporarily prohibited from traveling to Oromia.
Followed up by bulletin from March 9.
Location: Addis Ababa
Event: U.S. Government travelers may arrive or depart from Bole International Airport on Sunday, March 10. This updates the Security Alert sent on March 8, 2019.
Apparently there was some concern.
Security Bulletin from March 8.
Location: Meskel Square in Addis Ababa and the Oromia Region
Event: The U.S. Embassy is aware of calls for a protest to be held on Sunday, March 10, 2019 at Meskel Square. It is unknown whether the protest has been or will be approved by Ethiopian authorities. Protests have already occurred in many parts of the Oromia region since March 6, and additional protests may materialize.
U.S. Embassy personnel are advised to avoid Meskel Square and limit movement around Addis Ababa on Sunday, March 10. U.S. Government travelers have been advised not to arrive or depart Bole International Airport on Sunday, March 10, and U.S. Embassy personnel are also temporarily prohibited from traveling to Oromia.
Followed up by bulletin from March 9.
Location: Addis Ababa
Event: U.S. Government travelers may arrive or depart from Bole International Airport on Sunday, March 10. This updates the Security Alert sent on March 8, 2019.
Apparently there was some concern.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:45 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:
I can assure you business class was better than US carrier business class.
I've read economy class can be pretty wild though, but that's true for any economy class heading to a relatively poor destination.
Oh I wasn't comparing the cabins and the inside experience. I don't doubt that. I am just saying I have a hard time believing their pilots, maintenance, etc. are close to 1st world airlines.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:56 pm to BHM
quote:
fleet bulletin warning of the potential problem and how to address it. This is in addition to the mcas training.
That bulletin wad BS. It said if you have an uncommanded pitch down with one or more of about 10 other things, then follow the checklist for a runaway stabilizer. The Lion Air guys were fighting the airplane all the way to the water and would not have been messing with a checklist. I talked to a couple of 737 drivers last week and they had no idea about that bulletin. The only training most 737 pilots have on the MAX is a 4 hour computer based "differences" training.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:33 pm to aileron
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I talked to a couple of 737 drivers last week and they had no idea about that bulletin
Well shame on them. I even know about the bulletin and I am not a pilot. As a 737 "driver", how could you not be following the story of a 737 crash and not know about the bulletin?
Good grief, I hope you are either joking or at least willing to name these pilots so I do not get on their planes.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:35 pm to Ghost of Colby
What is odd is my parents are literally world travelers with a published book on traveling. They have been to all 7 continents and hundreds of countries. They have had countless articles written on their traveling yet I haven’t partaken yet abroad.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:36 pm to BHM
quote:
As a 737 "driver", how could you not be following the story of a 737 crash and not know about the bulletin?
Not all 73’s fleets have max’s
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:54 pm to hottub
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:07 pm to RedRifle
Just got an email from work stating that we had 2 co-workers on the flight. Not that I've ever met them or have any idea who they were, but still very sad.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:11 pm to pickle311
BREAKING: China's civilian aviation authority orders all Chinese airlines to ground Boeing 737 Max 8 planes after Ethiopian Airlines crash
AP Twitter
AP Twitter
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:31 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Can always count on China to have their people’s best interest in mind
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:34 pm to tunechi
Wonder if the FAA will follow suit.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:39 pm to LSUJuice
Jesus. What a frickup by Boeing. Heads are gonna roll
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:32 pm to baldona
quote:
Oh I wasn't comparing the cabins and the inside experience. I don't doubt that. I am just saying I have a hard time believing their pilots, maintenance, etc. are close to 1st world airlines.
From their website, their maintenance division has 1800 employees, are capable of perform heavy maintenance on Boeing planes, and engine overhauls on selected engines, their facilities look as good as any in the U.S. I am sure they are trained by Boeing in the same classes as U.S. maintenance workers.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:32 pm to EA6B
Reuters:
quote:
JUST IN: Ethiopian Airlines grounds Boeing 737 Max fleet until further notice $BA
Posted on 3/10/19 at 11:37 pm to tigerfan88
quote:
Jesus. What a frickup by Boeing. Heads are gonna roll
Yep. I remember reading on this very forum about 3 or 4 years ago that Boeing isn’t the same company it used to be.
Sounds like they rolled the dice based on some bean counter advice and they deserve everything that’s coming to them and more.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:29 am to WeeWee
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or if you are flying Malaysian airlines.
Malaysia Airlines lost 2 777 aircraft months apart by EXTREMELY unlikely events. One was almost certainly sabotaged by a flight deck crew member, and the other was shot down by a missile fired by modern Neanderthals.
It's a very unfortunate thing that the airline had to endure. Neither accident was due to poor training, or mechanical issues, imo. Malaysia is still recovering, but many airlines of that size would not have.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:36 am to Reservoir dawg
Yep, they somehow rolled snake eyes twice. I can *maybe* entertain the idea that they (and every other carrier) shouldn’t have been flying over the Russia/Ukraine bullshite, but MH 370 is one of the most bizarre things to happen in aviation history.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 12:37 am
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