re: 737max crashes in Ethiopia. Killing 157

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MH 370 is one of the most bizarre things to happen in aviation history.

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No doubt. As more and more time goes by the harder it's going to be to find any of the remaining pieces at the bottom of the ocean. There's no telling how many large sections of the fuselage came to rest on the sea floor. Or how far apart they are in the blackness. I think a brand new future technology will have to be used to find the final resting area.

Boeing 737 MAX 8 in the U.S. major carriers-

Southwest has 34 active

American has 24 active

United flies the MAX 9 which has different flying characteristics, but also has the MCAS system.

Looks like Southwest already took action against the shoddy AOA sensors to prevent the nose dives. I’m sure Boeing will issue a statement soon about the updated AOA and fixes for existing MAX’s

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Southwest Airlines will activate new Angle of Attack (AOA) indicators on the large display screens for its upcoming 737 Max deliveries from Boeing to guard against any erroneous sensor data that may activate the jet’s controversial stall protection system, according to the airline.

The cockpit display modification marks the first technical change to the airline’s 737 operations since the October 29 crash of Lion Air 610 off the coast of Jakarta, Indonesia that killed all 189 aboard the brand new 737 Max 8.

Southwest’s pilots, the largest group of trained 737 aviators on the planet, were notified this week of the upcoming change that will start rolling out with new deliveries from Boeing starting in late December, according to two people familiar with the deployment.

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At times. There's been plenty of cases of people surviving until they hit though

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You got their testimony right?

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From their website, their maintenance division has 1800 employees, are capable of perform heavy maintenance on Boeing planes, and engine overhauls on selected engines, their facilities look as good as any in the U.S. I am sure they are trained by Boeing in the same classes as U.S. maintenance workers.

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Lol. Okay, let’s believe everything a company website says.

I’ve had ‘the world’s best burger’ about 100 times...

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You got their testimony right

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Nah, in the modern era we use CVRs and FDRs.

If anyone is interested in reading a good discussion about this crash, I'd recommend this PPRuNe Thread.

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In the case of the Air France 747 in 1996 that came apart due to a fuel tank explosion, those passengers who didn’t die in the the blast were instantly killed upon exposure to the high altitude air. A few of them may have had time to gasp but because they were moving at hundreds of kilometers per hour, most died immediately.

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I was actually thinking of Air France 447 in 2009.

Boeing designed a system to push the jet nose down to gain airspeed (and lift) in the circumstances that caused the Air France A330 to crash into the Atlantic in 2009. This of course depends on accurate altitude and angle of attack readings.

I've read in a couple of places that the Lion Air crash and possibly this crash had similar characteristics of the jet being forced down, surprising pilots that may not have been trained to handle that.

It's interesting to see these responses from multiple airlines; I wonder if this is more in response to public outcry or just an abundance of caution.

Southwest adding new angle of attack indicators to its 737 MAX fleet

Cayman Airways suspends use of Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft

Indonesia follows China in grounding Boeing 737 MAX 8 jets after fatal crash