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re: 7 months in and don't know a single person hospitalized
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:53 am to Landmass
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:53 am to Landmass
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I know of 3 that have committed suicide
Substance abuse, depression, homelessness, domestic violence, and yes...suicide...all significantly increase when the economy goes south. The authoritarian governors and mayors that are pushing these draconian rules don't really consider those impacts to society despite being warned repeatedly. The media didn't really focus on the plight of those that lost their livelihoods through all of this. There's no end to the extent of power my local and state politicians want. Their goal is to appear to be "doing something" so all of the worried KARENS that watch CNN won't be upset with them. They do this hoping that the media will blame the Feds and POTUS for economic slow downs in the meantime.
It all has convinced me that governors and mayors should not have the authority to order long term business closures like they did in April, May, June, and July. They are fully incapable of not making it political. In some of the worst cases of corruption (which I predict will be seen in Louisiana, Illinois, New York), some businesses will never reopen without the right people getting paid off. Their authority to shut down businesses should be limited to a max of 14 days to give them time to handle the effects of blizzards, hurricanes, terrorist attacks, or other natural disasters.
I'm convinced that Covid is here to stay and will flare up annually like the flu does. I'm not okay with Pritzker (the pathetic excuse for a governor in Illinois) having the power to shut things down for extended periods of time like that.
As we sit right now, there should be nothing stopping normal life to resume in my area. Our local hospitals never even came close to capacity even in March and April. Younger, non-smokers just aren't seeing severe symptoms. People are educated enough to know that they need to isolate for 10-14 days after a diagnosis, and the elderly care centers have by now either adopted new protocols are have lost all of their vulnerable patients.
Schools need to fully reopen. Employers need to be understanding of the need for their employees to self-isolate if exposed, but should otherwise get back to work as they normally would. The vulnerable and elderly need to remain isolated until inoculation occurs. People under 50 especially need to get back to working, vacationing, patronizing restaurants/bars, and using public transit again.
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:59 am to RedPants
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Covid seems to have no rhyme or reason at times in who it hits hard.
Friend of mine her mom, dad, aunt, and uncle all got it the same time. Her mom and dad were able to recover at home. Her aunt and uncle both landed in the ICU on vents and her uncle died (he was Hispanic and overweight and over 65).
The long term effects are what we don't know a lot about. We still have staff at our hospital that got it a few months ago that are still out on medical leave. They never had to be hospitalized (besides ER visits) but are not able to work at this point. I've talked with some of the unit nursing managers of various floors and they have had some staff that got COVID that had to ultimately quit their jobs. None of them were hospitalized either, but they can no longer work 12 hour shifts on their feet. And for some of those positions...there is no light duty option...so they have no choice but to quit and find something else that doesn't require as much physical work.
Another nurse that works for another hospital (but has multiple friends at my hospital) died from it. Guy was early 40s, in great health, didn't drink or smoke. Not overweight and big into crossfit so worked out like everyday. No known medical history. He got it, recovered and seemed to be fine. Was more worried about his mom that landed in the ICU with it (she recovered and went home). Then a week or so after he thought he was ok...he went to the ER for difficulty breathing. Never came home. Ended up on a vent and ultimately died from ARDS from COVID.
So yeah...there seems to be no rhyme or reason with COVID. While many had no issues with it, you can't just say it's the old and those with medical issues that really struggle with it. Cause that's not always the case.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:18 am to lsunurse
One elderly (~70) at work passed after a lengthy stay in the hospital.
I was in a sportsbook in Vegas watching that miserable Saints MNF game and sat next to a middle-aged overweight lady. I overheard her conversations with her husband. She was terrified of Covid. Apparently a friend of a friend spent a lengthy stay in the hospital, recovered,
but was now on disability. I'm trying not to live my life in fear. The politicians want us living in fear. Better to control.
I respect the virus for what it is, but if you took an alien and dropped them into this post-Covid world, did not give them any stats, had them guess what the morbidly rate was, I think the alien would say 30%, 40%, maybe 50%. We have gone way overboard with government control, especially when we learn more about the virus.
I was in a sportsbook in Vegas watching that miserable Saints MNF game and sat next to a middle-aged overweight lady. I overheard her conversations with her husband. She was terrified of Covid. Apparently a friend of a friend spent a lengthy stay in the hospital, recovered,
but was now on disability. I'm trying not to live my life in fear. The politicians want us living in fear. Better to control.
I respect the virus for what it is, but if you took an alien and dropped them into this post-Covid world, did not give them any stats, had them guess what the morbidly rate was, I think the alien would say 30%, 40%, maybe 50%. We have gone way overboard with government control, especially when we learn more about the virus.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:22 am to lsunurse
quote:But we deal in statistics, not outliers, and, yes, those are outliers.
So yeah...there seems to be no rhyme or reason with COVID. While many had no issues with it, you can't just say it's the old and those with medical issues that really struggle with it. Cause that's not always the case.
If we based policy decisions on outliers, we would never advance anything.
Vaccines, all medication, all medical management, none of it would work.
Covid primarily impacts the elderly based on all statistical measurements.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:01 pm to Landmass
I know 1 who was hospitalized last week and 1 who died in April.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:03 pm to Landmass
If you were in my friend circle I’d kill my self too.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:21 pm to Landmass
The problem is these doctors are not educating the masses of Americans to minimize their risk of contracting Covid.
No one is telling them to increase their time outside getting vitamin D, vitamin C and Zinc, eating Whole Foods rich in micro nutrients (vitamins n minerals), exercise, etc
No one is telling them to increase their time outside getting vitamin D, vitamin C and Zinc, eating Whole Foods rich in micro nutrients (vitamins n minerals), exercise, etc
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:15 pm to Landmass
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don't know a single person hospitalized
There are rumors that a certain Donald J Trump was hospitalized but take it with a grain of salt cause this virus is a hoax, of course.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:26 pm to northshorebamaman
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Because you claiming to personally know 35 people who have died from covid strains believability.
Must be a floating nurse among nursing homes. It would be beyond belief if I knew this many.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:27 pm to TBoy
I don't give a shite about covid.
If I was fat I would.
If I was fat I would.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:30 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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well I don't know any astronauts, but I'm pretty sure they exist.
Have you heard of any astronauts who have gotten Covid?
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:35 pm to mattchewbocca
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Have you heard of any astronauts who have gotten Covid?
Not yet...but
NASA Astronaut Potentially Exposed to COVID-19
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:39 pm to IndianInBR
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There are rumors that a certain Donald J Trump was hospitalized but take it with a grain of salt cause this virus is a hoax, of course.
So the response to this virus resulting in millions of jobs lost, economic uncertainty and ruin, what are essentially dictatorships in states and cities wasn’t overblown and is being perpetuated by mainly democrat governors isn’t over the top?
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:39 pm to lsucoonass
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The problem is these doctors are not educating the masses of Americans to minimize their risk of contracting Covid. No one is telling them to increase their time outside getting vitamin D, vitamin C and Zinc, eating Whole Foods rich in micro nutrients (vitamins n minerals), exercise, etc
Ok Hippie.
Just kidding. You’re exactly right
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:56 pm to Landmass
I know 4 people (one from Zachary, one from Baton Rouge, one from Central and one from St. Francisville) that have been hospitalized (three ventilated and placed in induced comas) with one death. She was 49 and a childhood friend of my wife, with high school age children. Another person who recovered was a runner who is in otherwise good health, but he was vented so long he is having to learn how to swallow food and water again. I know 30 people who have had it, some with symptoms, some without. The college age kids had little or no symptoms, but one gave it to his parent who had symptoms, but is now okay. Grow some empathy
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