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34 States Had Higher Death Rate From 2018 Flu Than Coronavirus

Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:58 pm
Posted by thadcastle
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:58 pm
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In fact when you actually dive into the numbers what you see is pretty interesting: just seven states: New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and Connecticut dominate the nation’s death count. In fact, these seven states comprise nearly two-thirds of the deaths in the entire country.

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The biggest reason? Because their governors, led by Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York, made the disastrous decision to send nursing home patients infected with the coronavirus at hospitals back to their nursing homes.

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The result? The coronavirus spread like wild fire through the most vulnerable populations in these states, leading to tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

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Governor Andrew Cuomo believed hospitals in New York were going to be overloaded because the “experts” had told him New York would need 140,000 beds. He thought he needed these hospital beds, so he sent the nursing home hospital patients back to the nursing homes. The sad reality? New York only ended up needing 19,000 beds. Meaning those patients never needed to be moved. This means these horribly flawed “expert” forecasts, which the media peddled as part of their fear porn and no one adequately challenged, directly led to the deaths of tens of thousands of nursing home patients who might otherwise still be alive.



Interesting read

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ETA: One of my biggest take always from the article was thousands of lives were lost based off of decisions from a flawed model
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:00 pm to
Measured over the same length of time?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:02 pm to
Yes but that was in 2018 where Obamacare still protected us, now that our medical system is trumpcare and doctors force people to inject Lysol and drink fish cleaner millions are dying from coronavirus
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:02 pm to
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Measured over the same length of time?
obviously not.
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:03 pm to
If it saves ONE asthmatic diabetic 90-year-old...
Posted by 007mag
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:05 pm to
Give it a rest, nothing you have to say will make a difference to any one that makes the decisions.
Posted by Popths
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:07 pm to
Don’t worry. Sleepy Joe is going to straighten this mess up.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:09 pm to
If it's anyone I trust on this, it's Clay Travis. Fox news needs to scoop him up and go full throttle on destroying those msnbcucks.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:10 pm to
Seasonal sickness is fun discussion. Mississippi State won the west in 1998 this we are awesome this year.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:12 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 4:36 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:14 pm to
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Governor Andrew Cuomo believed hospitals in New York were going to be overloaded because the “experts” had told him New York would need 140,000 beds. He thought he needed these hospital beds, so he sent the nursing home hospital patients back to the nursing homes.

As much as I think Cuomo is an idiot, was the decision AT THAT TIME really that far off base?
Back in March, everyone was thinking absolute worst case for EVERYONE, not just nursing home residents.
Some blame needs to be placed on the fear mongering scientists.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 6:15 pm
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:17 pm to
Calm down dude. #wereinthistogether #stayhome
Posted by Jp1LSU
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:24 pm to
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If it's anyone I trust on this, it's Clay Travis. Fox news needs to scoop him up and go full throttle on destroying those msnbcucks.


Let’s base health care and public policy on the opinions of a radio sports talk show host. I guess in a world where a reality tv guy is a choice for President it makes sense. I love Clay, but I think he’d even chuckle at this.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:34 pm to
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As much as I think Cuomo is an idiot, was the decision AT THAT TIME really that far off base?
Back in March, everyone was thinking absolute worst case for EVERYONE, not just nursing home residents.


Are you asking if dropping covid bombs into nursing homes was a stupid decision at any time? Yes, it definitely was a very very stupid decision.

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Some blame needs to be placed on the fear mongering scientists.



Yes of course. But not every governor made the very very stupid decision that Cuomo and a few other very very stupid governors made. Most didn't.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 6:35 pm
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:39 pm to
It only took shutting down the world to get it lower than the flu.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:47 pm to
Why every store/major event isn't 100% fully open is beyond me. Open everything the fricking frick back up. This country I swear is run by a bunch of imbeciles.
Posted by Jackie Chan
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:51 pm to
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This country I swear is run by a bunch of imbeciles.


Because its populated by imbeciles that voted in the imbeciles.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:54 pm to
I tried to tell ya'll trump was an idiot.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:56 pm to
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if it's anyone I trust on this it's Clay Travis......


Where exactly was he wrong?

All the data he presented is factual and well sourced.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14347 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:58 pm to
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As much as I think Cuomo is an idiot, was the decision AT THAT TIME really that far off base?


Yes, it was. If a Covid positive patient is ready for hospital discharge, you don't send them back to the nursing home. You need to quarantine them somewhere else until they aren't contagious. Use tents if you have to. It was crazy to seed the nursing homes with Covid positives. Most states had more sense than this.
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