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re: 34 States Had Higher Death Rate From 2018 Flu Than Coronavirus
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:58 pm to msutiger
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:58 pm to msutiger
quote:In March he said that he would be surprised if the number of CASES got into the THOUSANDS.
That dude whiffed badly out the gate and then just moved the goalposts and claimed he was right the whole time.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:04 pm to East Coast Band
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As much as I think Cuomo is an idiot, was the decision AT THAT TIME really that far off base? Back in March, everyone was thinking absolute worst case for EVERYONE, not just nursing home residents. Some blame needs to be placed on the fear mongering scientists.
Yes. Sending people with a highly contagious respiratory disease back into an enclosed place with a population of weakened immune systems was always a bad decision
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:05 pm to Green Chili Tiger
That meme doesn’t work because this disease is much more like an alligator than Godzilla. Real and much smaller
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:17 pm to thadcastle
Jeez......because the aggressive manner in which the government has addressed covid was employed with flu
Think people.
Is it as bad as some fatalist said it would be? No.
Is this over? No......vaccine much?
The Fall months combined with more people matriculating amongst each other will tell the true tale. Problem is the knuckle draggers can’t even pitch in even an ounce of effort......they’re more interested in shaking their dicks at snowflakes, dems, libs, sky screamers, soy boys, cucks, etc.
A 3rd person I know died last week from covid. Guy was late 50’s but healthy. I have NEVER had a flu season even take one person I have even met.
Think people.
Is it as bad as some fatalist said it would be? No.
Is this over? No......vaccine much?
The Fall months combined with more people matriculating amongst each other will tell the true tale. Problem is the knuckle draggers can’t even pitch in even an ounce of effort......they’re more interested in shaking their dicks at snowflakes, dems, libs, sky screamers, soy boys, cucks, etc.
A 3rd person I know died last week from covid. Guy was late 50’s but healthy. I have NEVER had a flu season even take one person I have even met.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:31 pm to fightin tigers
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Measured over the same length of time?
It’s basically a recent version of the same argument of “well only 2 people have died of it!” back in Feb.
Things are looking great now, and the right thing to do now is open up and promote exposure but let’s not pretend the book is closed on this virus yet.
All of the talk of mismanaging care and sending patients to nursing homes aside, the fact remains that this was the leading cause of death in the US for a week or two.
Even the worst flu season never comes close to that.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 6:40 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:36 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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That meme doesn’t work
True. I'm not sure if the flu has ever killed 100K people in a year much less in 4 months.
NB4 lol the numbers are wrong.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:38 pm to Green Chili Tiger
CDC link stating 80,000 people died in the 2018 flu season
Pretty damn close considering we don’t know who died with covid and because of it
Pretty damn close considering we don’t know who died with covid and because of it
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:43 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Pretty damn close considering we don’t know who died with covid and because of it
CDC stating deaths in excess of seasonal flu/causes being between 83k-113k with the fall remaining to go.
Also, that was the worst flu season in 40-50 years.
EDIT: I’m drunk, so deal with the edits
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:44 pm to Volvagia
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Things are looking great now, and the right thing to do now is open up and promote exposure but let’s not pretend the book is closed on this virus yet.
It seems there has to be two ends, the virus is a built up hoax or it is going to eventually kill us all.
There does seem to be a growing middle ground that sees this is far more serious than the flu, but that the response has stifled the virus spread making this far more manageable.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:45 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Pretty damn close considering we don’t know who died with covid and because of it
12 month numbers vs 3 month numbers.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:46 pm to fightin tigers
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There does seem to be a growing middle ground that sees this is far more serious than the flu, but that the response has stifled the virus spread making this far more manageable.
Which is where I’ve been at for quite some time, getting shite on by both the deniers and the doomsdayers
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:46 pm to thadcastle
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Because their governors, led by Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York, made the disastrous decision to send nursing home patients infected with the coronavirus at hospitals back to their nursing homes.
Im absolutely dumbfounded why he thought this was a good idea. I mean WTF
We’ve known this impacts older people much more significantly since early March I’m pretty sure. It’s not some recent development
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:46 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Pretty damn close
If you're comfortable with a 20+ percent margin of error.
Sure.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:46 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Pretty damn close considering we don’t know who died with covid and because of it
Wouldn’t that apply to 2018 flu statistics, too?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:50 pm to tylercsbn9
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Im absolutely dumbfounded why he thought this was a good idea. I mean WTF
I don't see how any sane person thinks about this for more than a second and concludes that it is appropriate to force nursing homes to take Covid positives. There is no way to know how many deaths these decisions caused, but it may not be a stretch to say that it caused a quarter of all US deaths.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:59 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Yes. Sending people with a highly contagious respiratory disease back into an enclosed place with a population of weakened immune systems was always a bad decision
And I’m more than a little pissed (but not surprised) at how little the media is covering this.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:09 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Considering the revised estimate is 61,099 (and fewer than 10,000 were case confirmed deaths for comparison purposes) and COVID is at 102,107–67% higher and increasing—it’s not very close at all.
Pretty damn close considering we don’t know who died with covid and because of it
Estimated influenza disease burden, by age group — United States, 2017-2018 influenza season
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:19 pm to fightin tigers
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12 month numbers vs 3 month numbers.
Yeah but how many of those deaths were due to sick elderly being sent back to nursing homes? This behavior would not have happened with the regular flu
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:22 pm to thadcastle
Even if you remove those deaths, this is still much worse than the flu just based on how fast it can spread.
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