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re: 3/4s of millennials are more than $100,000 in debt, most not from mortgages

Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:14 pm to
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Today, only about one-fourth of millennials (28%) are debt-free. Of those, about 1 in 3 (34%) have never had debt, while 1 in 4 (25%) have paid off their debts within the past year


There is no way this is close to true. Wait, I read that wrong
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6315 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:14 pm to
Millennial checking in here to brag. I only have house debt and working hard to pay that down in the next decade!
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11974 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:16 pm to
Lots of people maxed out at $60k or so and then paid them minimum on an income based repayment plan and it ballooned to 6 figures. If you want to get depressed go venture over to the student loan sub reddit. They do have all the info on how to get forgiveness if you qualify for a PSLF so it is useful, but damn is it depressing for those that go for the 25 year forgiveness... it's not really any better than just paying off your loans on time though.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:18 pm to
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Let's romanticize a bunch of third world shitholes.





Tell me youve never been to Costa Rica or Thailand, etc without telling me .


But honestly, im glad most Americans have your attitude or else those countries would be far more expensive to live in.. enjoy being caught in the crushing debt cycle here .
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5840 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:20 pm to
Main problem is a lot of US remote jobs won't really let you live in another country
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38557 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:21 pm to
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If you want to get depressed go venture over to the student loan sub reddit. They do have all the info on how to get forgiveness if you qualify for a PSLF so it is useful, but damn is it depressing for those that go for the 25 year forgiveness... it's not really any better than just paying off your loans on time though.




Yea I don't quite understand that route. Seems like a fricking horrible trade off.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39831 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:26 pm to
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Agreed, on most of ur post.. but how is it a ‘scam’ to live in Mexico while making US dollars working remotely ? It’s the exact same thing im planning to do while living in Costa Rica or Thailand.. there’s actually a term for it: Geographic Arbitrage.. leveraging your ability to make first-world money while living a ‘developing country’ life with the accompanying prices.. and it’s 100% legal .



You are still paying what is generally your largest bill, taxes. Unless of course you plan on giving up that blue passport. You can definitely benefit from some COL savings but Uncle Sam still takes his part no matter where you live.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29199 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:27 pm to
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What the frick are they doing?



Trying to eat if I had to guess.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4808 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:28 pm to
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Tell me youve never been to Costa Rica or Thailand, etc without telling me


I guarantee you I've lived on more countries and continents than you.

And those countries still have shanty towns. Third world shitholes that can't take care of their own citizens.

There's a reason your dollars stretch to the max.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5840 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:33 pm to
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There's a reason your dollars stretch to the max.



Local wages. Which, if you work remote for an American company, is not a problem.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:34 pm to
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UK, Australia, US…is all the same


Hear u on nice parts of developing countries but do not hear u on US expense profile versus world (UK, for example). At all.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30197 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:36 pm to
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Local wages. Which, if you work remote for an American company, is not a problem.


There's very few American companies that are going to let you work an American job with an American salary abroad.

If they even let you work they're going to index your salary way down and more likely they aren't going to let you work anywhere they don't already have operations
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36672 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:37 pm to
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us Boomers, adopt a millennial. Mentor them.




Is this what they tell the wife the money to the Sugar Babies goes towards?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39831 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:40 pm to
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If they even let you work they're going to index your salary way down and more likely they aren't going to let you work anywhere they don't already have operations


This has been my experience as someone who has worked multiple international postings. You also need to be aware of local visa requirements and local tax burdens.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 10:42 pm
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:42 pm to
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And those countries still have shanty towns. Third world shitholes that can't take care of their own citizens.


well USA has shanty towns, and USA has third world shithole areas where they can't/don't/won't take care of their citizens. And the issue is getting worse, not better.


I think BK Lounge has the right idea and is ahead of the curve, as long as you have a good paying remote job. That said there are some realities to living in a 2nd/3rd world country depending where you're at, the locals kind of expect you to 'spread the wealth' as it were. tip generously, hire housekeepers, that sort of shite.



As to why I think he's ahead of the curve in looking at the 2nd/3rd world...

well I don't think many millennials will be able to 'retire comfortably' like previous generations have. they'll look for other options rather than dodging bullets in section 8 housing.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:46 pm to
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There's very few American companies that are going to let you work an American job with an American salary abroad. If they even let you work they're going to index your salary way down and more likely they aren't going to let you work anywhere they don't already have operations



What is this “let” stuff you keep saying ? Start your own company online… Lots of people do that; i personally know a couple of them who have done very well.. And even if you’re not making much money at first, living in a LCOL country gives you the runway to live very cheaply (and well) while building your business .. btw i find it hilarious how people on here are always espousing the virtue of living in low cost of living areas of the US, but dont feel the same about living in low cost of living areas of the world .. Go ‘Merica, i guess .
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79379 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:47 pm to
I don’t know why people can’t believe this. There are a shite load of millennials. Us on this board are a blip.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30197 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:49 pm to
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What is this “let” stuff you keep saying ? Start your own company online…


What are you going to do? Does the industry you're going to be working in/with have data protocols that let their data travel outside of the US or to one man shops with low controls?

Are you going to have the correct visas?

Are you going to have to incorporate/form in the US to solve either enterprise or visa issues, then being subject to US taxes?

You're half baked idea isn't as easy as you want it to be.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38557 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:52 pm to
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I don’t know why people can’t believe this. There are a shite load of millennials. Us on this board are a blip.


Because it’s WAY out of whack with virtually every other survey or study of this type of thing.

Do you really think the average millennial with student loans is carrying 126k of SL debt?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30197 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:53 pm to
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Do you really think the average millennial with student loans is carrying 126k of SL debt?



These MF'ers "believe," create, all sorts of shite that has no basis in fact
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