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Posted on 8/2/19 at 12:51 pm to Darth_Vader
My second cousin was in Kuwait for work and was a in the American Embassy for months. Remember the yellow ribbon my mom had tied around tree in the front yard.
He eventually wrote a memoir about it. Need I see if I can find it at my moms house to re-read. It was quite good.
He eventually wrote a memoir about it. Need I see if I can find it at my moms house to re-read. It was quite good.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 12:51 pm to Darth_Vader
Seems like we'd see the same effects from people involved in OEF
Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:12 pm to Jim Rockford
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On a serious note, I found out yesterday a friend has been diagnosed with ALS. He was in the first Gulf War. Military personnel have twice the rate of ALS as the general population. Unknown as to why, but presumably due to exposure to something. Same with Multiple Sclerosis, so much so that it is considered a service connected disability if diagnosed within 7 years of end of service.
Jim...
Not a lot of folks know this but there was a significant release of chemical weapons(nerve gas) upwind of US personnel in Iraq. If his unit was near Khamisiyah Iraq after hostilities ceased, there is a good chance he was exposed.
If he was exposed he should have received a letter from the Dept. of Defense at some point. My unit was in the area. I got together with some folks from my unit last year and some of those guys were REALLY sick. They had really weird and rare auto-immune diseases. I've had some issues myself but nothing that I can't attribute to other things. One of the guys in my unit was dead within the year of getting back (cancer) and one guy had MS diagnosed and progress so quickly he couldn't walk within the year. I have no doubt these things are related to their service in the gulf. It was tough looking at those guys in that state. Some really tough folks reduced to feeling that bad.
Here is a LINK discussing it.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:17 pm to eitek1
Thanks a lot 
ETA a lot of guys got real shitty treatment, which is par for the course since time immemorial. For a long time they were basically accused of malingering, before the government finally admitted something was up. The guys deserved better. I hope you are doing ok.
ETA a lot of guys got real shitty treatment, which is par for the course since time immemorial. For a long time they were basically accused of malingering, before the government finally admitted something was up. The guys deserved better. I hope you are doing ok.
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:20 pm to Darth_Vader
And that was a war in which the smart Bush 41 actually stuck to the parameters of the mission and left saddam well enough alone when he went back to Iraq.
For years, they kept asking 41 why he didn't "finish the job" and go after saddam. The years of 2003-07 with his moron son in charge pretty much answered that question and they stopped asking it.
Bush 41 was one of the best foreign policy Presidents we've ever had.
For years, they kept asking 41 why he didn't "finish the job" and go after saddam. The years of 2003-07 with his moron son in charge pretty much answered that question and they stopped asking it.
Bush 41 was one of the best foreign policy Presidents we've ever had.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:26 pm to LSUA 75
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:30 pm to Sentrius
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Bush 41 was one of the best foreign policy Presidents we've ever had.
agreed, and that's where his expertise ended, cool guy, would have loved to have had a cold one or two with him, but he was completely oblivious to what was going on at home, even admitted that his philosophy was to have a strong foreign policy and the domestic issues will work themselves out, one of the worst POTUS we've ever had, imo
Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:35 pm to 777Tiger
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but he was completely oblivious to what was going on at home, even admitted that his philosophy was to have a strong foreign policy and the domestic issues will work themselves outimo
And even with all that, white trash Bubba Clinton still needed Ross Perot pulling off an absolute miracle with his 3rd party run to squeak into the White House.
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one of the worst POTUS we've ever had, imo
His foreign policy alone will make sure no one ever thinks of him as just that.
The top 5 worst Presidents we've ever had are in no particular order.
Woodrow Wilson.
LBJ
FDR
Jimmy Carter
Barack Obama
Honorable Mention: Abe Lincoln because he truly jumpstarted the monster that would become the American federal government today.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:39 pm to Sentrius
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And even with all that, white trash Bubba Clinton still needed Ross Perot pulling off an absolute miracle with his 3rd party run to squeak into the White House.
meh, everybody "squeaks" into the white house anymore, as I posted, that's just my opinion but there's quite a bit of data to support that opinion, not going poli on this so that's all I'm going to say about it
Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:40 pm to 777Tiger
He didn’t say Arabs couldn’t fight he said they couldn’t fight as organized army.He also said they were some of the best guerilla fighters on earth so we should stay out of the cities.I don’t know if they are the best guerilla fighters but the 2’nd Gulf War showed they were pretty formidable adversaries.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:47 pm to 777Tiger
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one of the worst POTUS we've ever had, imo
Posted on 8/2/19 at 1:48 pm to Sentrius
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Abe Lincoln because he truly jumpstarted the monster that would become the American federal government today.
Disagree here in the fact that he would have been MUCH more lenient on the South during Reconstruction, and wanted to send freed slaves back to Africa.
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 2:11 pm to ExtraGravy
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As for the old guy, he had his opinion but I personally hope professional military people think deeper than saying "Arabs can't fight, this will be easy."
Well, while they’re good at conducting an insurgency, when it comes to actual war fighting, if you look at the Arab counties track record in the past century, you’ll see they kinda suck. And by kinda, I mean they completely suck.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:58 pm to Darth_Vader
Anyone else remember the Saddam Hussain condom?
For guys who just don't know when to pull out.
For guys who just don't know when to pull out.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:38 pm to Darth_Vader
I had a busy 1989-1991. In Dec 89 as spanking new butter bar in the 504th PIR I got the Christmas present of going to Panama and was allowed to jump out of a perfectly functional plane to help take back the International Airport. Shortly after I got back I went to Ranger school. A couple of months after getting back to Bragg we headed out to Iraq and I got very proficient in the art of clearing bunkers. We got back to Bragg in April of 91, just in time for me to have a birthday party.
The thing I remember most about the buildup to Desert Storm was watching CNN every spare minute we had. We didn't really worry about the Army per se it was the chemical weapons and million mine minefield (neither of which were anything like as significant as we were lead to believe) that had us on edge.
The thing I remember most about the buildup to Desert Storm was watching CNN every spare minute we had. We didn't really worry about the Army per se it was the chemical weapons and million mine minefield (neither of which were anything like as significant as we were lead to believe) that had us on edge.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:40 pm to Obtuse1
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Obtuse1
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:46 pm to Darth_Vader
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We were only a little over 100 miles from Baghdad when the ear fire order came down. And there wasn’t jack shite between us and there. If Bush daddy had let us keep on fighting at most another 48 hours, the second Gulf War may have never happened.
True but I think Bush Senior had a better understanding of what would happen when we took down Saddam. Saddam was a dictator and a bad man, sure, there world is full of them. He was also an enemy of Iran. It's nice that he's gone but he was replaced by a regime that is a close ally of Iran and that was entirely predictable. The second Gulf War never made any sense to me and still does not. Afghanistan - different story, that had to be done. The exit strategy from Afghanistan is always the problem.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:48 pm to Darth_Vader
I had left in June of 1990 on a Wespac as a part of the CH-53E element attached to HMM-164(C) aboard the USS Okinawa. We were going to hit Thailand, Australia, and other ports during the deployment. Instead, Dipshit invades Kuwait and our itinerary gets scrubbed and we are just about the first ships in the Gulf. For no other reason than I never made it down under, Saddam needed to die.
Couple of notes:
The Navy definitely does not put their varsity on the Gator freighters. Huge difference between amphibs and the blue water Navy as far as quality of officers and men.
There are an ungodly amount of sharks in the Persian Gulf. You could damn near walk from one side of the gulf to the other and never get your feet wet on the backs of sharks.
It was awesome flying over the battleship, Missouri. The Broke-inawa was a bucket of bolts. The Mizzou looked like it had just slid out of the yards in 1943. And, yes, there were squids out swabbing the wooden deck.
Couple of notes:
The Navy definitely does not put their varsity on the Gator freighters. Huge difference between amphibs and the blue water Navy as far as quality of officers and men.
There are an ungodly amount of sharks in the Persian Gulf. You could damn near walk from one side of the gulf to the other and never get your feet wet on the backs of sharks.
It was awesome flying over the battleship, Missouri. The Broke-inawa was a bucket of bolts. The Mizzou looked like it had just slid out of the yards in 1943. And, yes, there were squids out swabbing the wooden deck.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:49 pm to Tigris
We’ve always had to make the choice of who is the least unstable regime over there.
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