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re: 23 students from same school achieve perfect ACT score

Posted on 6/8/25 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 5:45 pm to
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“I’ve been preparing for about the last year, kind of like intermittent,” Bennett said. “I took about eight practice tests just to practice it and prepare for it.”
Not "intermittently"? Wouldn't that be the adverb of "preparing"?
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3083 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:00 pm to
Didn’t know they had that many Asians in that area.
Posted by SallysHuman
With Sally
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:10 pm to
The photo in my local news was asians and a white dude.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40695 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:27 pm to
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. For 23 specific students in one school to all score 36, assuming a typical high school class size of 500, the probability is approximately (0.003)^23, or 1 in 10^77


By Grok's own admission, this math only works if the students are chosen randomly and independently from across the nation.

The chance that 23 kids from Whitney Young score a perfect ACT is much higher than the chance that 23 kids from a BR public school do the same.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40695 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:30 pm to
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Seems a statistical impossibility


Not really. It's not a random sample of students.
They're all taking the same ACT prep course at the same school.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2727 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:43 pm to
quote:


The chance that 23 kids from Whitney Young score a perfect ACT is much higher than the chance that 23 kids from a BR public school do the same.


Baton Rouge Magnet High has 10-15 kids with 36 on the ACT every year.
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Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40695 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Baton Rouge Magnet High has 10-15 kids with 36 on the ACT every year.


I wasn't thinking of BR Magnet
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
6802 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:05 pm to
For the 2023 class of Haynes Academy School for Advanced Studies in Metairie, nine students achieved a perfect ACT score. It had an enrollment of about 500 students for grades 9-12.

Accordingly, it's not surprising that a class of Whitney M. Young Magnet High School would have 23 students achieve a perfect ACT score, since it has an enrollment of approximately 2,200 students for grades 9-12, or a little more than four times as many as Haynes Academy.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13537 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:06 pm to
How many did that school have last year?

23, out of how many?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:08 pm to
Yeah but how was their basketball team?
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2633 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Grok: The odds of 23 students from one high school receiving perfect ACT scores (36) are astronomically low. About 0.3% of test-takers score a 36 annually (roughly 4,000 out of 1.3 million). For 23 specific students in one school to all score 36, assuming a typical high school class size of 500, the probability is approximately (0.003)^23, or 1 in 10^77, factoring in independent scores and no systemic bias. Even with a highly selective school, the odds remain vanishingly small due to the rarity and independence of perfect scores


At Whitney Young, the elite public school students at one of the largest school districts in the country are funneled there. It’s different than the elite private schools competing for top students and their $. I was at a national academic competition in high school years ago, and Whitney Young was the Illinois representative, not some private school. I also believe they were one of the highest finishers as well.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8415 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:18 pm to
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Yeah but how was their basketball team?


Very good. The advantage of being an elite magnet in a school district with 3M people is that you can take whomever you want, and that goes for sports, too.

Jahlil Okafor, Quentin Richardson, Jordan’s kids, etc. all played there. They are one of the best programs in Chicago.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23913 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:19 pm to
Are they all going to Harvard ?
Posted by Lsukinesalum2001
Member since Sep 2022
50 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:37 pm to
My son was one of 3 from an ascension parish public high school last year that got a 36. Not a magnet school or school that necessarily hand selects high achieving students. It’s definitely becoming more common. I’m thinking their teaching methods are better preparing these students for standardized tests. My other son just got a 34. Neither did any prep classes and got score after 3rd time taking test. This was not a super-score either.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49307 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:44 pm to
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Over/under is 3.5 on Patels


Nguyen
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
1247 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:09 pm to
I'd like to see the pre-ACT/PSAT scores and grades for all 23 students.

Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
2086 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:16 pm to
Humble brag
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80566 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:04 pm to
ACT is racist
Posted by Friendly Satan
Member since Nov 2024
642 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:21 pm to
Breakdown by “demographics”?
Posted by ScottAndrew
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2009
1109 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 11:05 pm to
Oh I gotta hear more about this
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