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re: 2005 F-150: engine rebuild worth it? Or time to move on?

Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:29 am to
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:29 am to
OP didn't say exactly which engine he has, so calling it trash seems a little, um, Internety.

That said, if it's an SOHC V8, that's actually a really good engine. Heavy-handed amateurs do sometimes strip out sparkplug holes, but if you avoid that you can easily get 300,000 miles out of one of these without a rebuild.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20380 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I picture stripped down rusted vehicles filling the driveway in your trailer park Lucky lot manager Becky cares more about meth than keeping hoa rules



Wrong on both counts pal. Just because I learned to do things for myself instead of "paying the man" to do things for me, doesn't make me anywhere near close to "trailer trash".

Knowing how to rebuild an engine has saved me many thousands of dollars over the years between cars, trucks and motorcycles.

Doesn't hurt to know how to work on your vehicles.

And frick all the downvoters of my original post. Just trying to give the OP an option to do it himself with his son so they can do this project on their own.

What a bunch of pussies this site has. Must be a bunch of millennials who would have a hard time changing a flat tire, much less trying to rebuild an engine.

This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16594 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:39 am to
How are the nuts hanging?

Jk. I say get rid of it.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:45 am to
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Those prices they quoted you for the rebuild are just insanely inflated. what's sad is there are some people who would actually be dumb enough to give them that money




If it has a scored cylinder it needs to be bored. Hardly anyone bothers with doing that shite locally anymore as crate motors are much cheaper from the big rebuild outfits.

Hell, I can't find a shop within a couple hours to machine a SBC for a mild race motor.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40333 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 1:19 pm to
And honestly, unless the truck is really sharp otherwise, I wouldn't put $5-6K in it.

You're still gonna have an old truck with other older parts (trans, rearend, suspension, etc).

It's like trying to catch a falling knife.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19959 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

You're still gonna have an old truck with other older parts (trans, rearend, suspension, etc).


No guarantee that buying a newer truck is going to mean being free of failures in anything you've listed. I have a low-mileage 2000 5.4L 2V F-150 and I'm keeping it for the longhaul. My fiancée has a 2004 5.3L 1500 Silverado with 130k easy miles on it and she is perfectly happy with it.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
3017 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 1:29 pm to
5.4L?
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18953 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Hindsight says I should have sold it for more than what I dropped into it and bought what I have now anyway.
Leaning this way.

The engine is the 5.4 V6 SOHC. Two quotes I got were remarkably close - $7125 and $7210, both plus tax. The engine prices were $4586 and $4400, respectively.

Both said no one locally (Covington) will machine the cylinders, header, etc, and break it down and put it back together.

Like you said, it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend the money and take the time to have that done (or to buy a used engine) when I'll likely have other issues down the line.

Thanks to everyone for the input. Your help has been noted in your user files.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76153 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:13 pm to
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I would def move on to something else.
This.

On a '05 model year truck, spending anything over $3k is too much good money after bad.

Vehicles are too complex now (even circa '05 MY), a rebuilt engine in that machine only gets you to the next component/system issue.

Think Electrical System, Transmission, Cooling System, Body Hardware/Corrosion/paint, Suspension, A/C, Interior, etc....

Almost the entire vehicle is 15 years-old.

Plus a newer full-sized truck is safer.

Cut your losses. Move on.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 2:14 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45198 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:27 pm to
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The 2 valve 4.6 Triton engine from that era is one of the best engines ford has made. The 3 valve 5.4 not so much.
I can only speak for the 5.4, twice....
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23127 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:29 pm to
The only choice is to slap a vortech in there
Posted by sodcutterjones
Member since May 2018
1317 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

We bought it two years ago for my son. The no. 2 cylinder is dead, scoring throughout, with hole in the top of the piston. Those familiar with these engines know about the fragile spark plugs, which might have contributed to the problem. So I'm being quoted between $6500 and $8000 for an engine rebuild. I'd get a 3 yr / 100,000 mile warranty. Obviously we'll never get that money back if we sell it, so it's more about not buying another truck for him. Any thoughts on my choices here?


I wouldn't rebuild it. I wouldn't pay that much for a 2005 Ford F-150 that had a good engine.
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
6163 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 3:16 pm to
Triton engine? It’s a losing proposition either way. The rebuild/parts or replacement engine costs are so high because of supply and demand.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19318 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 5:18 pm to
Are you an 19 you girl? who in their right damn mind would think that is a legit quote good god man the damn dealer wouldn’t charge that. Call jasper or google it for god sakes
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19959 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

The rebuild/parts or replacement engine costs are so high because of supply and demand.



Cheaper to buy 5.4 rotating assembly parts than 5.0 HO parts these days. A forged steel 5.4 crank is under $300. The upgrade oil pump is $130. Can get the whole cam phaser/timing chain/guides/tensioners for under $700 and all OEM parts. If the OP had the time and ability it's less than $2000 and he would have an engine with zero problems.
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 5:27 pm to
Not many people have the ability to rebuild an entire engine....
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40333 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 5:33 pm to
Do us all a favor and delete this thread now that you have solid info.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19959 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:19 pm to
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Not many people have the ability to rebuild an entire engine....


Doesn't require a full rebuild, just a good longblock or even a shortblock. Nothing to machine, just basic sockets, a torque wrench, and a few YouTube videos.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18953 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Are you an 19 you girl? who in their right damn mind would think that is a legit quote good god man the damn dealer wouldn’t charge that. Call jasper or google it for god sakes
Appreciate your thoughtful comments. Thanks for taking some of your valuable time to contribute to the thread.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4667 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:26 pm to
I was about to look at doing some engine work on my '05 5.4 as one of the cylinders was f'n up on quick acceleration. The hail storm in May could not have come at a better time. I was sad to see the truck go but it was time.
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