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re: 16.6 Million file for jobless/unemployment aid due to corona virus shut down

Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:38 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42784 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:38 am to
So social distancing dictates we must completely shut down the service industry? Or the hobby industry? Or the brick and mortar retail industry?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
27002 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:38 am to
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No, I didn't. I just don't understand how it's been steadily rising with all the news of the unemployment numbers and other economic turmoil. Makes no sense to me.

The Dow isn't an economic health index.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42784 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:39 am to
They just need to grind it out getting that $600+/week from tax payers
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5659 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:39 am to
Self-inflicted recession. Exceptional.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:41 am to
2 more weeks.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27997 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:42 am to
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Fauci, Birx, and our elected officials going salary free?

You know, kinda like tens of millions due to their decisions.


nah

Remember when the government was shut down the media presented it as a apocalyptic crisis.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31636 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:46 am to
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Remember that universal living wage everyone was raising hell about? That $600/week is $15/hr. That's well above the average pay in many states and in many industries. All you have to do is say you're scared, go home, and collect close to $800/week. The Federal gov't has entered the job market and is paying MORE for people to do LESS than their current employer in many cases.

Honestly, I can't believe that this number isn't higher.

And it’s got a lot of service industry business owners scared shitless. Turnover hasn’t been too high because the benefits haven’t started yet.

Had a long conversation with a housekeeping vendor this week and he is expecting a lot of “I’m scared for my safety” claims if the benefits do start next week.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78047 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:47 am to
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2 more weeks.
Another 13-14 million UE claims.

This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42784 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:48 am to
Scruffy, it’s just yours and my money and livelihood. Why do you like your hard earned money and livelihood so much?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78047 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:50 am to
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Scruffy, it’s just yours and my money and livelihood. Why do you like your hard earned money and livelihood so much?
My job isn’t going anywhere, at this time.

Way more concerned about how this will harm the millions of other Americans and what kind of long term impact this could have on America.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42416 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:51 am to
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A few more weeks. People need to grind it out.




I found that somewhat encouraging. That is about the level of the great Recession not the Great Depression. If we can open this back up by May I think we'll be fine. Some industries like travel, hospitality, logging will still feel the pain but we can climb out of this.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125091 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:53 am to
You’re just greedy for wanting to support yourself. We’re two weeks behind Italy!
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:56 am to
The market is forward looking, it and it's rich crony overlords aren't gonna wait for everyone to get back to work to go up. That's not how they stay rich.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42784 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:59 am to
Scruffy, I’m being idiotically sarcastic. I know what you’re worried about, as am I
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:06 am to
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what kind of long term impact this could have on America.


I don't think long term is the concern. IMO it's the short term. A lot of businesses will never reopen, but others will take their places. The ones that do reopen quickly after this passes will see a huge boom, especially in the hospitality industry as people who have been trapped at home will be flocking to social interaction.

I think in the long term you see more companies sticking with remote work/WFH set ups. Major cities with traffic problems will surely take a good hard look at throwing some incentives at companies to do so in order to cut down traffic. It's been a dream driving around town during all of this. That isn't going unnoticed.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:10 am to
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I think in the long term you see more companies sticking with remote work/WFH set ups


god I hope so

I haven't missed any deadline or fallen behind on any projects the last 3 weeks AND I don't have to drive an hour to the office everyday?

They could save a lot of money by letting me stay at home and not paying for a company truck and gas.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 9:17 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41698 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:18 am to
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And somehow the Dow is steadily rising


Dow is future-priced. We are getting close to back to normal, and there is going to be a lot of pent up demand. Especially since a lot of people will end up, in the long run, being made whole due to all this government cheddar being dropped out the helicopter.
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:39 am to
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I think any government official who had a hand in this shutdown needs to forfeit their salary until their jurisdiction is opened back up.


congress bipartisanly made sure they gave themselves a raise and a bonus, actually.
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