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re: 16 reasons being child-free is awesome

Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:29 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:29 am to
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That article is disturbing. It’s more of the progressive push since the 60s to get white people to stop having children so they can work to flip demographics in the US and Europe. And it’s working. White people have been brainwashed into having no children while they import people who dump 7 or 8. The birth rates of the US and Europe are absurdly low.

And if you think this is absurd.. I knew there would be a white couple on the cover before I opened the thread. Time putting a white couple on the cover proves this point. These days you can barely find a magazine that doesn’t have a hispanic or black person on it. White people only make covers when they’re being told to stop reproducing.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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It’s literally their purpose.


Surprised you’re divorced. You seem like a joy to be around.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466852 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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Discussions on this topic are so emotionally-driven it makes smart people really dumb.

so using words that have applicable meanings is now being emotionally-driven? OK.gif
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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RogerTheShrubber, for example, is much better than his performance here.


hes always seemed dumb to me, so idk about all that.

it appears he is becoming senile too which is not a good look
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88124 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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that's a bad question, counselor


No, it’s not. I legitimately don’t understand the concept of labeling someone “selfish” for living their life the way they want to.

That’s of course assuming the “selfish” label is meant as a pejorative, which it almost always is but I concede may not always be the case.

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the alternative choice (having kids) is our biological and evolutionary default.


So what? It’s not 5000 BC anymore.

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so then, why do people reject having kids? it's almost always defended by selfishness


If I don’t want to go to the LSU baseball game tonight is that “selfish”? Why does somebody have to do something just because that’s what’s always been done?

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but behind that selfishness is a narcissism trying to explain how important that person is


I may or may not have kids at some point, but the fact that I haven’t done so has nothing to do with thinking of myself as “important” in any way nor has anyone else I’ve talked to who doesn’t have kids given that impression. For whatever reason they just don’t want to. Why can’t that be enough?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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The post I responded to was a joke I thought that might be apparent to you.



Stop all this nonsense and just admit that, generally speaking, I have good parenting advice.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
And I mean they're supposed to be teenagers. It's what they do and how you parent them through gets them ready for adulthood.

Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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And if you think this is absurd.. I knew there would be a white couple on the cover before I opened the thread. Time putting a white couple on the cover proves this point. These days you can barely find a magazine that doesn’t have a hispanic or black person on it. White people only make covers when they’re being told to stop reproducing.
wtf

Got some sad people on this board.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138178 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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just because life has continued in part thanks to reproduction
how else has life been able to continue?

i anxiously await this response
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297196 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
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"oh no, im a selfish narcissist" - ok?


Nothing wrong with it. However, you have to remember most people actually have feelings and care about things other than themselves. Extreme selfishness isn't something most are accustomed to.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32752 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:31 am to
Pecker, I feel like you’re compensating for something with this man. Nobody is jealous of your childfree life. In the long run, people with kids will be much happier when they’re middle aged or older. And raising successful kids is one of the greatest accomplishments you can achieve in life. Anyone without kids is missing out on that (and some shitty parents)
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37750 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:31 am to
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I have 2 teenage girls. This is minimal if you're not an a-hole parent.


that's why I used the modifier "most".

When I went to my 10 year HS reunion and all my classmates were having kids, they "felt bad for me" and my choice to forgo kids.

At my 25 year reunion, when most of those same people's kids were teens, they all told me how smart I was to not have them.

The choice I made worked for me. Its nor for everyone- or even most people. I don't regret it. I don't view it as anything special or celebratory. The list in the OP reeks of someone trying to rationalize a regrettable decision.

Most people are meant to be parents. I'm an anomaly. Don't know why it wasn't in my DNA. But I have no regrets at this point.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103538 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:31 am to
FWIW, when I was 30 - or 29, whichever one you are - I didn't really want to have kids. I made good money, traveled a lot, spent way too much on food and drink, and thoroughly enjoyed life.

I've honestly found that having a kid (at 38) didn't change my lifestyle all that much. People are still going to find a way to do the things that make them happy, and miserable people are still going to be miserable.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:32 am to
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uote:
just because life has continued in part thanks to reproduction
how else has life been able to continue?

i anxiously await this response







It’s almost like Darwin is trying to save us some hassle on the back end when you see an anti-kid poster say something like that
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297196 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:33 am to
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Stop all this nonsense and just admit that, generally speaking, I have good parenting advice.


You need some pets. Practice on them a while.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133500 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:33 am to
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just because life has continued in part thanks to reproduction doesn't mean reproduction is the "point" to life.



In part? IN PART!?


No, every one of us is here because a man and a woman managed to survive all the cataclysm that killed others and bump uglies.

If we want our genes to continue, which is the purpose of all life, we have to keep reproducing.

If not we go the way of the dodo.

Now this isn’t saying that those that aren’t able to have kids can’t contribute, not at all.

But until we accept the very basic fact that our most innate purpose and drive is to further our line then we can’t get anywhere.

If you choose not to have kids, that’s your prerogative. But don’t act like it’s something to be lauded.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88124 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:33 am to
You seem like you’re probably a big Alex Jones fan
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:34 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466852 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:34 am to
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I legitimately don’t understand the concept of labeling someone “selfish” for living their life the way they want to.

i said it was rooted in narcissism, not selfishness

selfishness is just an outward trait of the narcissism

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So what? It’s not 5000 BC anymore.

yeah ok. it's still our biological default.

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Why does somebody have to do something just because that’s what’s always been done?

we're literally built and programmed to do this

sure, you can prevent yourself from breathing (because it's always been done), but that doesn't mean it's not our biological programming

or here, i'll flip it:

why do YOU feel YOU are so special (or important) that YOU are the one to buck this trend?

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For whatever reason they just don’t want to. Why can’t that be enough?


because it's almost never that simple

life wouldn't be interesting if we never investigated choices made by people. that's the basis for most of academia, philosophy, and science
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:35 am
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:34 am to
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SlowFlowPro


I would guess that narcissism is uncorrelated with parenthood, meaning it occurs with equal frequency in both parent and non-parent populations.

The decision to have kids could be motivated by narcissism just as much as the decision to not have kids.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:35 am
Posted by willymeaux
Member since Mar 2012
4877 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:35 am to
I don’t care what these people do, but one thing i hate is the smug superiority the child free people have towards people with kids. Just read the child free reddit.
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