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re: 13-year-old raped by inmate during Angola rodeo

Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:56 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:56 am to
quote:

You think a 13 year old is capable of consenting to sex in a bathroom with a random inmate at a prison rodeo?


No. That is not what I think nor said.

Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:57 am to
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???

Is murder not a violent crime. Almost all the inmates there are there for murder.




Murder during the commission of another crime such as rape, armed robbery, against a police officer, child, multiple victims, and more.

Simply killing someone doesn't guarantee you will land at Angola.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:58 am to
frick them, their social skills and their rocking chairs. I don’t need anything from a convict.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:59 am to
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She can't consent legally, yes

I think what he means is that it is possible that the prisoner did not drag her in the bathroom and forcibly rape her


This is what I was trying to get at. Of course a 13 year old isn't mature enough to make this type of decision and the prisoner took advantage either way.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:59 am to
You said it’s possible she wasn’t forcibly raped and that my “she can’t consent” post was limited to the legal definition of consent.

Coercing a 13 year old into sex is still rape. He doesn’t have to be holding her down.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:59 am to
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How many years did you do at Angola?


I did some community service washing patrol cars.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 8:59 am to
It’s still rape though. It doesn’t matter how it happened.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:00 am to
I think field trips go.
Generally only trustees are allowed any freedom to move around and then only in confined areas.

It's actually a neat event.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:00 am to
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A 13 year old can’t consent dude.


Exactly. That's why them saying "she admitted to having sex" is so fricked up. A 13 year old child being raped by an adult is not "having sex" and does not have to "admit" to jack shite.

I wonder if this reporter were doing a story on a carjacking they'd describe it as "the car owner admitted to giving their car to the perp"?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33895 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:01 am to
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He means they walk around alone a lot, not that it’s a rape fest.


No way, SFP is always going on and on about how everyone is getting raped.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:01 am to
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You think a 13 year old is capable of consenting to sex in a bathroom with a random inmate at a prison rodeo?




I rag on Salmon constantly, and no where did he even imply what you're asking him.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:01 am to
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frick them, their social skills and their rocking chairs. I don’t need anything from a convict


I need them to possibly perform in society one day.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:01 am to
Darth weren’t you raped as a kid? You are def qualified to speak on this subject.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:02 am to
quote:

You said it’s possible she wasn’t forcibly raped and that my “she can’t consent” post was limited to the legal definition of consent.


Yes.

quote:

Coercing a 13 year old into sex is still rape


I agree. I never implied anything different.

Simply stating that coercing her into the bathroom and raping her through coercion is different than abducting her and forcibly raping her.

It is still very much rape. But the former seems to be what happened, thus the wording from the article.

Just trying to clear up confusion, that's all.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 9:04 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:03 am to
I said she can’t consent.

He said yes she can’t legally consent and that it’s possible this wasn’t a forcible rape. It’s not a far jump to see he meant she could’ve said yes when the guy persuaded her into having sex with him.

I’m not saying he meant the consent was valid, but it’s clear to see where he was going with it. And it doesn’t change a thing. She was raped. The method doesn’t matter.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:04 am to
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Laderrick Davis, an inmate serving a life sentence for murder is accused of the crime.

Gee, I thought life sentences were just as good as the death penalty and sufficient enough to obviate their necessity.
This post was edited on 11/8/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:05 am to



Are these wooden bowls? They're awesome.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I said she can’t consent.

He said yes she can’t legally consent and that it’s possible this wasn’t a forcible rape. It’s not a far jump to see he meant she could’ve said yes when the guy persuaded her into having sex with him.

I’m not saying he meant the consent was valid, but it’s clear to see where he was going with it. And it doesn’t change a thing. She was raped. The method doesn’t matter.


He still never said a 13 year old could consent.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:06 am to
I’m not saying you implied anything different. Just sounded like the both of you were saying how he raped her mattered.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/8/17 at 9:07 am to
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Just sounded like the both of you were saying how he raped her mattered.


Not mattered, just clarifying for those that were confused about how the article was worded.
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