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Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:24 pm to bigjoe1
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another episode in a distinctly American pattern of public violence, where festivals, dinners and graduation ceremonies have given way to gunfire.
Got it, truck attacks in Nice and Christmas markets all over the EU, bombing of little girls in Manchester, the Bataclan, Charlie Hebdo, none of those count.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:24 pm to Kafka
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a solid way to distort the stats slo would be proud
EXACTLY
like the people are any less shot or dead because it was due to a color someone was wearing
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:30 pm to LemmyLives
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another episode in a distinctly African American pattern of public violence
FIFY
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:42 pm to fallguy_1978
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If we remove most black crime their stats are a lot lower
You might be onto something. Maybe if they could exclude the crime stats for most of the criminals...then those stats would look even better or maybe just not report or arrest certain groups of people at all........
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:49 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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EXACTLY like the people are any less shot or dead because it was due to a color someone was wearing
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a solid way to distort the stats slo would be proud
Who is getting shot and where matters to me
The purpose of my comparison in the 2 archives is not to define what a mass shooting is, it’s to place perspective when you see that 170 mass shootings number and to show that perhaps it is not any more prevalent than it was 3 decades ago. It’s important to know why the numbers are what they are
The gun violence archive only started tracking in 2014
The MJ archive can only tell us which years had the most indiscriminate public mass shootings. Which was 35 in 1999. Gang violence was certainly no less prominent in the 90s in fact it was worse, as it was the height of the turf wars. So I don’t think adding gang related mass shootings to the 35 number would being doing 1999 any favors in comparison to today’s number
So when someone says “longing for the time of columbine” …that is a time where gang related violence was just as bad if not worse and a time where you were statically more likely to be killed in an indiscriminate public mass shooting. It leads me to believe they are comparing the numbers we get from the new method of defining mass shooting to the numbers you get from the older previous method, and making a determination on that as if the statistics were 1:1
Our times are more polarized politically, socially, and racially than that time and our news is 24/7 and essentially 100% negative. This makes us look far more fondly on the past, which is fair because our day to day was much less full of controversy then, but that also has a tendency to make us apply that fondness across the board to things that weren’t necessarily better
Plus I’m not a fan of the national gun violence archive mass shooting definition because that definition is used to argue for restrictions on the 2nd amendment for legal gun owners when statistically those mass shootings are being committed by people who have illegally obtained their guns
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:04 pm to Kafka
From what I can see its a whitey.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:10 pm to bigjoe1
Toledo is a shithole
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:25 pm to bigjoe1
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music festival
found the first problem
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Toledo, Ohio
found the second problem
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There appear to have been two shooters who were “probably shooting at each other,”
found the third problem
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Mayor Wade Kapszukiewicz
found the fourth problem
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turned a community celebration into another episode in a distinctly American pattern of public violence
and the propaganda begins
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one of the largest neighborhoods of Victorian houses in the country.
Wow! Victorian houses! Those 150 year old termite infested buildings with no insulation, lead pipes and cloth wiring next to the railroad tracks must be striking a chord with a certain gullible audience out there!
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:40 pm to bigjoe1
They have truly destroyed this country. They are making it worse and worse everyday
Posted on 6/6/26 at 11:11 pm to lsufanva
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The shooting is one of at least 170 mass shootings in the US this year,
So, essentially a mass shooting every other day in the USA.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 11:19 pm to Dalosaqy
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So, essentially a mass shooting every other day in the USA.
Now remove inner city gang violence from those stats.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 11:53 pm to LemmyLives
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:01 am to bigjoe1
At this point I am in favor of suspending Habeus Corpus. Don't are anymore. Bring on the fascism. If you have a violent crime or mid to high level drug offense, you go away for a minimum of ten years. EVERY SINGLE ONE. No jury trial. Judge rules and straight to prison.
We enact these standards for 18 months. That will clear out most of the bad apples (at least the dumb ones) and give their younger siblings and kids a fighting chance without their influence.
We enact these standards for 18 months. That will clear out most of the bad apples (at least the dumb ones) and give their younger siblings and kids a fighting chance without their influence.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:47 am to bigjoe1
Ohio and Michigan once fought a war over Toledo….Michigan won
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:23 am to Kafka
Wood bang for sure.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:45 am to bigjoe1
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:53 am to SuperSaint
Toledo is 100% a rough arse, ghetto, Rust Belt, thugged out shithole.
Black violence here, 100% guarantee.
Black violence here, 100% guarantee.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:07 am to UKWildcats
And here’s your reason why a neighborhood filled with Victorian homes never improves. Use to be place the place to live.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:57 am to Kafka
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a solid way to distort the stats
slo would be proud
What's the matter, racist? You want accurate crime data now? Is that what they teach you in your Trump cult?
Sincerely,
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