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re: 12 shot at festival in Toledo, Ohio
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:05 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:05 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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At this point I am in favor of suspending Habeus Corpus. Don't are anymore. Bring on the fascism
Every leftists in this country and on this site that pushed for Covid laws are smiling at this statement.
If you want this, it will be just like Covid again where Fauci, the CDC, and a Democrat president will get on TV and tell you that YOU have to watch your grandma die from a window while their foot soldiers can go out and destroy cities everywhere. They will tell you that YOUR rights are meaningless while their thugs terrorize you.
Look at Britain today. Nowak died because one group gets to carry deadly weapons while the citizens can't. That is exactly what progressives would do to America if they got their way. You are falling for the trap progressive judges are setting every time they release a violent animal back into the street. They want you begging for this.
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Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:21 am to bigjoe1
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The shooting at the Old West End Festival turned a community celebration into another episode in a distinctly American pattern of public violence, where festivals, dinners and graduation ceremonies have given way to gunfire.
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distinctly American
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pattern
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public violence
So, the media does notice there is a pattern to the violence, but it’s just an “American” pattern.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:22 am to Darth_Vader
13% of wizards cast 50% of hexes.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:14 am to UncleRuckus
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Shooting a group of people is a mass shooting, regardless of the reason it’s done.
Agreed, but I think his point was to dispel the notion that mass shootings were rare before Columbine. They weren't.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:19 am to ThePoo
All these threads turn into fights about why gang violence should or shouldnt be counted in mass shootings, ironically while all the participants of the argument seem to acknowledge the unwritten understanding that everyone knows the difference of what they are talking about or the argument simply wouldn't make sense.
All I know is it I ever get involved in a mass shooting, I definitely want to be in the one where im not the target since thats still a mass shooting.
All I know is it I ever get involved in a mass shooting, I definitely want to be in the one where im not the target since thats still a mass shooting.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:20 am to Dalosaqy
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The shooting is one of at least 170 mass shootings in the US this year,
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So, essentially a mass shooting every other day in the USA.
Try more than one per day.
Today is day number 158 of the year 2026.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:22 am to tiggerthetooth
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Im guessing its a trans person.
I've watched OPL.... I doubt it was a tranny.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:38 am to SallysHuman
Did you watch it both nights? We did and Friday night at the festival were a bunch of "Pride" type people yelling and cursing, etc... at the Toledo police.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:54 am to Pendulum
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All I know is it I ever get involved in a mass shooting, I definitely want to be in the one where im not the target since thats still a mass shooting.
I think you’re more likely to actually be shot if you’re NOT the target in these types of mass shootings.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:58 am to High C
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I think you’re more likely to actually be shot if you’re NOT the target in these types of mass shootings
Certainly seems that way.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:00 am to Nolalakeview
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Did you watch it both nights? We did and Friday night at the festival were a bunch of "Pride" type people yelling and cursing, etc... at the Toledo police.
I meant I've watched it in the past...
Also, Trannies, historically speaking, have much better aim. And I've never read about them shooting AT each other.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:47 am to Centinel
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13% of wizards cast 50% of hexes.
shhhh,, be quite.. We arn't suppossed to talk about it. Thats racist. ALso it's because of oppression and gang violence.. So it doesn't count.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 1:15 pm to TulsaSooner78
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Shooting a group of people is a mass shooting, regardless of the reason it’s done.
Agreed, but I think his point was to dispel the notion that mass shootings were rare before Columbine. They weren't.
Not classifying this type as a mass shooting allows the claim that it is only caucasians that are involved in mass shootings. The old "white men are the biggest threat to society" flim flam.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 1:31 pm to ruzil
I wish I had a simple answer as to quell the unaltered violence, I don't
It has to happen at their homes. Until (they) learn to respect everyone without violence, it will not change. Respect is just an excuse for violence
Thanks, lbj, I hope your seat is hot
It has to happen at their homes. Until (they) learn to respect everyone without violence, it will not change. Respect is just an excuse for violence
Thanks, lbj, I hope your seat is hot
Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:07 pm to UncleRuckus
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Combined with no description of shooters gives a perfect description of the shooters
Everything you love about Toledo.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:54 pm to ThePoo
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Who is getting shot and where matters to me
The purpose of my comparison in the 2 archives is not to define what a mass shooting is, it’s to place perspective when you see that 170 mass shootings number and to show that perhaps it is not any more prevalent than it was 3 decades ago. It’s important to know why the numbers are what they are
The gun violence archive only started tracking in 2014
The MJ archive can only tell us which years had the most indiscriminate public mass shootings. Which was 35 in 1999. Gang violence was certainly no less prominent in the 90s in fact it was worse, as it was the height of the turf wars. So I don’t think adding gang related mass shootings to the 35 number would being doing 1999 any favors in comparison to today’s number
So when someone says “longing for the time of columbine” …that is a time where gang related violence was just as bad if not worse and a time where you were statically more likely to be killed in an indiscriminate public mass shooting. It leads me to believe they are comparing the numbers we get from the new method of defining mass shooting to the numbers you get from the older previous method, and making a determination on that as if the statistics were 1:1
Our times are more polarized politically, socially, and racially than that time and our news is 24/7 and essentially 100% negative. This makes us look far more fondly on the past, which is fair because our day to day was much less full of controversy then, but that also has a tendency to make us apply that fondness across the board to things that weren’t necessarily better
Plus I’m not a fan of the national gun violence archive mass shooting definition because that definition is used to argue for restrictions on the 2nd amendment for legal gun owners when statistically those mass shootings are being committed by people who have illegally obtained their guns
I'm 100% in agreement. My comment about "longing for the days of Colombine" was the absurdity of the 170 number when we know why that number is attributed the way it is.
As a teen and young adult of the 90s, if statistics regarding mass shootings were attributed in the way they are now, the 90s numbers would be exponentially higher than today's. The amount of bodies left in the street around this country in that era would make current times blush in embarrassment. Rookie numbers.
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