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You only get one---Watkins or Graham
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:27 pm
You get one FA to improve the offense. I will also state that you still can draft other offensive players.
But Free Agents on the street Sammy Watkins or Jimmy Graham who do you want to see in a Saints Uniform next year?
But Free Agents on the street Sammy Watkins or Jimmy Graham who do you want to see in a Saints Uniform next year?
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:31 pm to tigerterrace
What's the cost? Just kidding.
Graham
+ fills the need of a receiver down the seam
+ good 3rd down option, fits perfectly with Thomas and kamara
+ knows the system, so learning curve won't be as steep
- limited athleticism compared to before
- won't be dominant at any point like before
- still cannot block, predictable offense
Watkins
+ likely only need to be a WR3, pairs well with Ginn and thomas
+ athleticism is still there
+ fills a role that we need on the offense, upside is very high
- health is a huge issue, dependability is a concern
- football iq matters, new offense and its a steep learning curve
- doesn't fix the 3rd down issues
Go with Graham. Draft a te and wr. Profit.
Graham
+ fills the need of a receiver down the seam
+ good 3rd down option, fits perfectly with Thomas and kamara
+ knows the system, so learning curve won't be as steep
- limited athleticism compared to before
- won't be dominant at any point like before
- still cannot block, predictable offense
Watkins
+ likely only need to be a WR3, pairs well with Ginn and thomas
+ athleticism is still there
+ fills a role that we need on the offense, upside is very high
- health is a huge issue, dependability is a concern
- football iq matters, new offense and its a steep learning curve
- doesn't fix the 3rd down issues
Go with Graham. Draft a te and wr. Profit.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:34 pm to tigerterrace
I don't want Graham back, with or without Watkins being in the picture.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:36 pm to tigerterrace
TE need >>> WR need
therefore
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therefore
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:39 pm to tigerterrace
Easily Graham. We've missed his red zone presence and ability to grab attention over the seams since he left.
I'm cool with Ginn for another year or two and would rather draft a WR or wait instead of grabbing Watkins.
I'm cool with Ginn for another year or two and would rather draft a WR or wait instead of grabbing Watkins.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:40 pm to High C
quote:
I don't want Graham back, with or without Watkins being in the picture.
If you had paid attention to our recent red zone passing game, you'd smack yourself for saying this.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:41 pm to High C
quote:yeah, Id hate to have a player back that would positively benefit us....
don't want Graham back
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:43 pm to Midget Death Squad
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TE need >>> WR need
And both of those guys are practically WRs
Jimmy isn't sealing the edge on a run
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:43 pm to tigerterrace
Why do people even talk about Watkins? He is always hurt
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:49 pm to sicboy
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If you had paid attention to our recent red zone passing game, you'd smack yourself for saying this.
That is an issue, but I think that it can be addressed outside of bringing Graham back.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:50 pm to tigerterrace
Whichever one doesn't negatively affect our running game...so Watkins
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:03 pm to tigersquad89
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Why do people even talk about Watkins? He is always hurt
Member when y’all didn’t want laittimore bc he was always hurt
He had a little stretch of injury there but so rd graham. Watkins is younger than mike Thomas. Imagine defenses having to account for him on top of our other weapons. We need a WR that scares a defense. Watkins would go nuts with Brees
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:10 pm to tigerterrace
Watkins easily. If he stays healthy, with Drew Brees he’d kill it here.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:31 pm to tigerterrace
You guys need to look at this objectively. Where Jimmy struggled in his last year here was when he got double or triple covered in the middle of the field.
Do that now? Mike Thomas is going to put up 150 yards a game, at least. Mike Thomas is currently abusing double coverage in most situations. You can't double cover both and leave no safety help for Ted Ginn.
The plays that Sean would throw at defenses with Thomas, Graham, and Ginn with Kamara in the backfield would break people. Bringing in Watkins gives you some of what Thomas already does, and some of what Ginn already does.
Do that now? Mike Thomas is going to put up 150 yards a game, at least. Mike Thomas is currently abusing double coverage in most situations. You can't double cover both and leave no safety help for Ted Ginn.
The plays that Sean would throw at defenses with Thomas, Graham, and Ginn with Kamara in the backfield would break people. Bringing in Watkins gives you some of what Thomas already does, and some of what Ginn already does.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:39 pm to tigerterrace
None of the above.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:57 pm to tigerterrace
Graham easily.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:11 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Yeah JG as we have no playmakers at TE. Yet.
Posted on 3/5/18 at 4:27 pm to bonethug0108
I think people are really underestimating Graham based on his time with the Seahawks. He was a perfect fit in the Saints offense, and not a good fit in the Seahawks which were why his numbers dropped.
Despite all of that, he still caught 10 TDs last year, and did so despite the Seahawks OL being awful and him having to block more than he needs to.
Graham is basically an oversized WR that adds a dimension that the team doesn't have at all, and will be a better value.
Despite all of that, he still caught 10 TDs last year, and did so despite the Seahawks OL being awful and him having to block more than he needs to.
Graham is basically an oversized WR that adds a dimension that the team doesn't have at all, and will be a better value.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:32 am to tigerterrace
We have plenty of WR talent. We need a tall red zone target.
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