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Werner contract restructure

Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:49 am
Posted by Lsujacket66
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:49 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:31 am to
rookies
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:15 am to
I thought they had plenty money for rookies last time I checked. Could be wrong.

Could also be for Kenny Moore.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:26 am to
rookies will take them close to no room, they’ll want extra money during the season beyond the rookies

8: 5.6mm
40: 2.1
73: 1.3mm
136: 1.1
172: 1
190: 950
219: 930

$10mm free now
After rookies, $3 million over the cap roughly
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:27 am to
We only have 5 LBs on the roster right now. It seems Werner is in the plans for at least this season.
Posted by SaintTigerPel
LaPlace
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:40 am to
Maybe making some room to sign Kenny Moore?
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:59 am to
quote:

I thought they had plenty money for rookies last time I checked. Could be wrong.
They do. They had about $10 mil in space, with the rookies set to take about $6 mil of that (some of whom wouldn't be replacing anyone in the top 51 and others barely costing more than who they replace; only the 1st and 2nd round picks take up most of that).

But if there are no plans to cut Werner this year then this could just be book keeping (since he would have made whatever money was pushed, it just changes the year(s) it hits) as the unused space can just be rolled over. Or it could signal a move(s) like re-signing Jordan and/or signing Moore.

It definitely wasn't something that needed to be done, but it also is something that really doesn't change anything unless it's used for signings.
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:02 am to
quote:

8: 5.6mm
40: 2.1
73: 1.3mm
136: 1.1
172: 1
190: 950
219: 930

$10mm free now
After rookies, $3 million over the cap roughly


Each one replaces (or doesn't in the case of the last 4) someone in the top 51, and anyone they replace is already on there for roughly $1.1 mil. So that's really only slightly less than $6 mil ($5.7 mil if I added that right) they take up.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:04 am to
Okay fair, but they still need additional money during the season. They needed to do it to make room for them

Plus I don’t see Cam not being on this roster
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 8:05 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Maybe making some room to sign Kenny Moore?

Good call. Timing of it would line up
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:08 am to
They need roughly $2.2 mil total for the 52nd and 53rd players once they count. That would leave slightly over $2 mil left on the cap.

It definitely isn't a move that needed to be made now, but like I said it could be nothing as they can move the money around. The only thing it definitely signals is Werner is on the team this year. Or they could be going for a signing.

Loomis himself said they want Cam back, and while I thought after the trade and signing Jennings that meant the end of that, Loomis said he wants Cam on the team the day after the Jennings signing.

That doesn't mean it will work out, but we'll see what happens.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:11 am to
$10 million today
$6 million rookies

$4mm left
Free up $4mm, $8mm total

Cam costs $6mm

Checks out. Doesn’t matter if it needed to be done today or in the future, they were doing it regardless
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 8:13 am
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:14 am to
My guess Cam and Moore.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:25 am to
Every contract written with void years, the moment they decide they will not cut or trade the player they will do this.

The more important thing I think is the fact that none of the guys they signed this offseason had contracts structured this way.
Posted by MaxxPain2
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:42 am to
Pete is a solid LB but he will be injured soon and then Stutsman will take the job full time.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:43 am to
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 9:18 am to
$14.2 mil (current cap room)
-$5.7 mil (1st to 3rd round rookies)
-$2.2 mil (player 52 and 53)
-$4 mil (practice squad)
= $2.3 mil for in season moves

I did forget about the practice squad cost, so if we are doing a signing for more than the minimum we will need to make more room. An Olave extension or restructuring Ruiz are the 2 most likely moves left, though Godchaux, Sheppard, and Wilson can also save some cap with restructures.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 9:19 am
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 9:59 am to
quote:

We only have 5 LBs on the roster right now. It seems Werner is in the plans for at least this season

Worth it to see who will be best going forward between Werner/ Stuts/ Ellis.

I think it has to do with K Moore > just freeing up money to have it considering timing.

The Saints can also still save $5mil-$10mil this year from extending Olave. And if Ruiz looks like the best option we can restructure him to save $4mil-$6mil. So yeah we can still free up like $15-$20mil.

Ruiz/ Werner were 2 of the last main pieces that haven't restructured yet.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 10:00 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:14 am to
quote:

And if Ruiz looks like the best option we can restructure him to save $4mil-$6mil.

I suspect Ruiz is in a step-up or ship-out situation and Mickey will avoid touching his contract. As it stands, you let him play out this year, you can easily cut him next offseason for a $9.5M hit (saves $4.7M against cap). And you designate him a post 6/01 cut to push $4.8M of that in 2028 ($4.7M on 2027 & $4.8 on 2028)
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