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re: We just traded a top tier player for less than compensatory value if lost in FA

Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
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Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:00 am to
Weird because almost everything the Saints have done to this point indicates they were pushing towards a run this year.

We overpaid big for Olave, and then just traded him to the Eagles for a ham sandwich while they still have our 1st and 3rd next year and our 4th in 2024 if memory serves.

Maybe the Saints are finally realizing that they’re not winning anything with Winston and making a push with him as QB despite the roster is futile.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:01 am to
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This could be a one year rental to try and make a run.

This would make it 1000x worse, because we'd have gotten more compensation with him as a "one year rental"
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:03 am to
What does Payton have to do with the move? frick him
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:03 am to
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This would make it 1000x worse, because we'd have gotten more compensation with him as a "one year rental"


The coaches wanted him gone, so he’s gone. That seems to be what the boils down to.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:09 am to
Does cutting Taysom at some point save a boatload of $$?
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6327 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:10 am to
Chauncey been balling out.

Would of liked to see him play safety for a year and prove his worth there.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 am to
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What does Payton have to do with the move? frick him



this would never happen under Payton.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 am to
Baffling
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 am to
Payton would have done something equally as stupid.

If he were here, Michael Thomas would have been traded for peanuts.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:12 am to
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Maybe the Saints are finally realizing that they’re not winning anything with Winston and making a push with him as QB despite the roster is futile.



Yes. I'm sure that's it
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:15 am to
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Payton would have done something equally as stupid.



Maybe my memory is shot, but I don't recall any lopsided trades like this under Payton. I am genuinely open to be corrected here though. Didn't we get Unger and a 1st for Graham when he was a malcontent?
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:19 am to
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Maybe my memory is shot, but I don't recall any lopsided trades like this under Payton.


Mostly just lopsided contracts

quote:

Didn't we get Unger and a 1st for Graham when he was a malcontent?


Graham was a pro bowler and possibly the best TE in the league at the time. CJGJ isn't on Graham's level
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13944 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:21 am to
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And losing him on the field for a year in the meantime.

Terrible.
Has to be one of the dumbest moves ever by Loomis. Let him play the season and if we cannot reach a deal, get the comp pick. Easily would have been a 4th or 5th anyway.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:23 am to
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Mostly just lopsided contracts



That's not the same thing as this




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Graham was a pro bowler and possibly the best TE in the league at the time. CJGJ isn't on Graham's level




I see you failed to miss my point. I'm not saying CGJ is a 1st round worthy trade, but he is someone you don't trade for a sick horse and rotten hay. I am saying that under Payton they didn't just give players away; they made sure they received proper value in return.

What we have here is a trade that has 2 winners and one big loser, and the Saints are definitely the big loser. Chad is 100% correct that we do better holding him for a year, forcing him to either hold out or play (just as every other team does) and then receiving a higher comp pick next year when he walks.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8504 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:24 am to
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Was it a guarantee compensatory pick for next year if he left?


Nope. One decent free agent signing and the comp pick is wiped away. Unless the saints planned on signing no free agents in the offseason there is no guarantee on comp picks
Posted by MaxxPain2
Member since Oct 2021
1474 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:31 am to
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They must have wanted him gone ASAP, so it was this or release him I guess.


thats the only way i see this as well
Posted by Tmar1no
Member since Jan 2014
621 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:32 am to
Thanks i always forget the compensatory rules
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34974 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:32 am to
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Michael thomas is a big part of why


Had nothing to do with it.

Neither did taysom
Posted by trex1250
Roswell
Member since Jun 2007
1160 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:52 am to
This trade was BEYOND horrible for so many reasons.

We are in win now mode.

I would rather have CGJ sit all year than play for the Eagles -a team we play this year (and has beaten us the past 2 years).

No way AT is better than CGJ this year. No way.

The compensation is just awful. Basically no compensation.

Also I believe that when the games started & we start winning the competitive nature of CGJ would have taken over.

This has to be one of the worst trades ever.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:57 am
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