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re: Top players still available at #40

Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:08 am to
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:08 am to
If a 4th would get either, I'd do it. Not sure I wanna give up 3rd for 1 year
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:13 am to
Hooker is neither of those two. Try again. We have two QBs, we need to get talent and depth on the roster
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23707 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:21 am to
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Hooker is neither of those two. Try again. We have two QBs, we need to get talent and depth on the roster



I'm not out on Hoooker. I don't think I like it at 40. Realize that Winston is only under contract for 1 more year. But, there are flyers that can be taken in the 5th for a 3rd QB.
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
2231 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:22 am to
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Yup. Also Romo/Prescott, Alex Smith/Mahomes, Roders/Love. shite, going back further, Brees/Phillip Rivers. Etc.


Just horrible examples to compare to the Saints and Carr. Romo and Rogers were both over 35 years old and perceived to be at the end of their careers (though Rodgers bounced back after the pick). Mahomes was a top 10 pick to replace a limited starter the Chiefs were ready to move on from. Rivers was drafted after Brees had a potentially career-ending shoulder injury following a sub-par season, a decision the Chargers regretted for years.

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2020: Eagles draft Jalen Hurts after signing Carson Wentz to an extension 2022: 49ers draft Brock Purdy despite having Jimmy G and Trey Lance


Purdy was literally Mr. Irrelevant, the last pick of the 7th round. Not comparable to passing on an impact player in the early 2nd to draft your 3rd string QB. The Jalen Hurts pick is probably the only possible comparable, but the Eagles probably knew at that time what the rest of the league figured out over the next few seasons - Wentz was a fraud and a locker room pariah.

I'm fine with the Saints picking a QB in rounds 4+, but passing on a probable starter in the 2nd round with our needs and aging roster for Hooker? Nuts.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 8:24 am
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2694 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:03 am to
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Just horrible examples to compare to the Saints and Carr. Romo and Rogers were both over 35 years old and perceived to be at the end of their careers (though Rodgers bounced back after the pick). Mahomes was a top 10 pick to replace a limited starter the Chiefs were ready to move on from. Rivers was drafted after Brees had a potentially career-ending shoulder injury following a sub-par season, a decision the Chargers regretted for years.


Agree with all that except Rivers was drafted before Brees injury. The injury was the excuse for the Chargers to move on to Rivers who they'd drafted after Brees first couple years were underwhelming - Drew was actually benched for Doug Flutie the season before Rivers' draft. Then he turned into the Drew we know and made the Rivers pick look stupid.

All that said, the Saints drafting Hooker in the early 2nd would be beyond dumb and not comparable to any of the examples the morons on this board are giving.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77169 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:12 am to
Brian Branch, S. Alabama
Keion White, DE, Georgia Tech
Drew Sanders, ILB, Arkansas
Adetomiwa Adebawore, DT, Northwestern

I think all these guys can make it in the nfl.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19626 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:13 am to
The Saints never pick the consensus guy on the board. I think they go with a prototype DE. Keion White, Jalen Redmond or Isiah Foskey.
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3619 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:49 am to
If Steve Avila is there he will be the pick. He can play every position on the line and that’s something the Saints always pick.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19626 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:39 am to
White and Foskey can play inside on the D-Line. I think they are just as likely to be picked as Avila.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131859 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:40 am to
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If Steve Avila is there he will be the pick. He can play every position on the line and that’s something the Saints always pick.



Not a bad point. They do like guys that can play multiple OL positions.
Posted by SauceBawse
Member since Mar 2022
246 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:47 am to
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Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13342 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:49 am to
Pick will probably be OL.
Posted by Duck enticer
Crowley
Member since Apr 2010
1353 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:12 am to
I'd still go OG, DE, LB, RB in no specific order. Runningbacks will be available in the 3rd or 4th. I could see us packaging all late round picks to move back up into top 100.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34321 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:16 am to
There’s 8 picks to us and plenty of guys to like. I doubt Mayer falls but would be awesome
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13940 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:25 am to
Our 4th should be enough to move up to Detroit at 34 (who supposedly wants to accumulate more later picks). If someone like Mayer, Torrence or Branch were still there, I could see the Saints making that kind of move.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17197 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:32 am to
I'm really feeling like 40 will be Tillman.

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Tillman (6'-3" 213lbs) is the most physical receiver in the draft class. He's a safe bet as a possession receiver, as he dropped only five of his 104 career catchable targets. from PFF.


Exactly what tye Saint need to make the transition away from MT13 in 2024. Plus he's insurance for when Thomas's toe gets a hang nail.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 11:34 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61082 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:33 am to
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Do you realize how dumb your line of thinking is?


I throw this question back at you.

Purdy was a 7th round pick, no one cares if the Saints a take a QB in the 7th round.

Hooker is already already 25 years old, it would be monumentally stupid for a team with habitual cap issues and other glaring holes on the roster to take a 25 yo rookie QB in the 2nd round after signing Carr for $100M guaranteed
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 11:37 am
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13940 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:37 am to
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I'm really feeling like 40 will be Tillman.

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Tillman (6'-3" 213lbs) is the most physical receiver in the draft class. He's a safe bet as a possession receiver, as he dropped only five of his 104 career catchable targets. from PFF.


Exactly what tye Saint need to make the transition away from MT13 in 2024. Plus he's insurance for when Thomas's toe gets a hang nail.
I like him, but Mingo fits as well and is a fantastic blocker in the run game (could replace Smith).
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34321 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:09 pm to
Underhill and Tripp have talked a lot about Mingo. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the pick tbh if Mayer isn’t there
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13342 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:20 pm to
Banking on Thomas staying healthy is risky as frick. Olave is better as a number 2. Shaheed as a 3/4. Could definitely see WR.
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