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The Pro "Draft Fournette" crew, explain something to me please.

Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:24 pm
Posted by knowingabyss
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:24 pm
As an LSU fan, I love Leonard Fournette and the dude is an absolute stud. With that being said, why do you feel we need him? A RB which is one of the easier positions to find for an offense that almost always is in the top 5 of the league?

Also, looking back at the RB position under Payton & Loomis, I think it's fair to say that while our 1st round picks (Bush and Ingram) have been serviceable, we've undoubtedly had more success with late round - undrafted guys. Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory, Joique Bell, Khiry Robinson, Travarris Cadet, Tim Hightower now, also just as a bonus, we almost landed Arian Foster a few years ago but he chose Houston because of depth purposes.

This team needs defensive depth in the worst way and while we've shown flashes of greatness, it's still a major area of concern for us. So why use a 1st round pick on a RB that will get nowhere near the volume of work he deserves down here?
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8379 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:27 pm to
Objection! Asked and answered
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:27 pm to
They want him because LSU. Its doesn't make sense whatsoever but LSU.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 3:28 pm
Posted by CajunsTigersSaints
Member since Jan 2015
4532 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:30 pm to
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late round - undrafted guys. Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory, Joique Bell, Khiry Robinson, Travarris Cadet, Tim Hightower now,


All either udfa or free agent pickups.

Payton has only drafted 5 RBS

Bush, ingram, murphy, lasco


Edit: forgot bust Antonio Pittman
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 3:33 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28892 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Edit: forgot bust Antonio Pittman


Speaking of...

quote:

On September 4, 2015, Pittman graduated from the Ohio Fire Academy with the intent of becoming a firefighter somewhere in the state of Ohio.


Posted by knowingabyss
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:35 pm to
Holy shite lol, I completely forgot about Pittman. Did he even play a regular snap for us?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:36 pm to
why use a first round pick on defense when we've gotten plenty of defensive gems as UDFA's or free agents or trades?
Posted by knowingabyss
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:36 pm to
Breaux

Who else?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:38 pm to
breaux
keenan
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crawley
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fairley
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Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56399 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:43 pm to
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They want him because LSU. Its doesn't make sense whatsoever but LSU.



Come on man. Fournette is going to be drafted very high. Every NFL team would want him. The question is whether or not the pick should be used on a RB vs. say a defensive player.

Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14723 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:45 pm to
Just my opinion, but Fournette has always looked better when the QB is under center handing him the ball as opposed to both him and the QB being in the backfield. Not sure if Buga is exactly a great fit for the offense y'all run.
Posted by CajunsTigersSaints
Member since Jan 2015
4532 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Holy shite lol, I completely forgot about Pittman. Did he even play a regular snap for us?


Nope got cut before the season. That's when Pierre Thomas out played him in the preseason.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:46 pm to
Here is a devil's advocate rationale:

As Brees ages, one way you might choose to protect him and extend his career is by remaking your offense into a more balanced one.

As he gets older, you may find that you get more out of him by asking him to do less.
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:48 pm to
He will and there are so many teams where he is a better fit and the Saints are not one of them. He doesn't fit and we need defenders and a guard. If this exact player went to Alabama not a single person on this board would be asking for him cause it does make sense at all. We would have to give picks away to trade up to get him too.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:50 pm to
I mean Fournette would be awesome, but I don't want to invest a first round pick in a RB. fricking Tim Hightower went for 26/102 against the SEAHAWKS.

Also, because LSU.
Posted by Throbinhood
Southern LA
Member since Sep 2013
819 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Fournette is going to be drafted very high. Every NFL team would want him


This just is not true if you are speaking that every team would use a high draft pick on him.
Cowboys, Steelers, Cardinals, Patriots, Seattle, Texans, Falcons, 49ers, Rams, Chargers, Broncos... would not use a high draft pick on him at the moment.

Teams that do need RB help: Lions, Oakland, Eagles.... There are not that many because RB in the NFL are a dime a dozen. I mean fricking Jacquizz Rodgers pretty much came off the street and had back to back 100 yrd rushing games.


Edit: I 100% think he will be drafted in the top half of the first round though, he is a legit amazingly talented individual. But most teams would not do it.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 3:55 pm
Posted by knowingabyss
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:01 pm to
For the record, I would actually be okay with us taking Jamal Adams because Byrd is probably gone next year and we can run the 3 S look again with Bell and Vaccaro like we did in 2013.
Posted by htran90
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Member since Dec 2012
30089 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:01 pm to
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Also, looking back at the RB position under Payton & Loomis, I think it's fair to say that while our 1st round picks (Bush and Ingram) have been serviceable, we've undoubtedly had more success with late round - undrafted guys. Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory, Joique Bell, Khiry Robinson, Travarris Cadet, Tim Hightower now, also just as a bonus, we almost landed Arian Foster a few years ago but he chose Houston because of depth purposes.



sometimes the hungry guys just simply play better.

But this is where people need to look outside of "lets draft LF" and look at some starters right nwo in the league.

Hell, Elliott being the lone guy in the top 5. and he was a 4th overall pick behind the best OL in the NFL.

David Johnson: 3rd rounder
DeMarco Murray: 3rd rounder
Lamar Miller: 4th rounder
LeSean McCoy: 2nd rounder
Matt Forte: 2nd rounder
Jay Ajayi: 5th rounder
Jeremy Hill: 2nd rounder
Gio Bernard: 2nd rounder
Devonta Freeman: 4th rounder
Isaiah Crowell: UDFA
Spencer Ware: 6th rounder
Matt Jones: 3rd rounder
Le'Veon Bell: 2nd rounder
Tevin Coleman: 3rd rounder
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10551 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:20 pm to
Some people would rather the saints go 0-16 with all LSU players than 16-0 with all Alabama players.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 4:21 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:30 pm to
Everyone on here saying NOT to draft Fournette is trying to look "NFL Football Smart" and put down on the LSU fans who want him.

It is idiotic.

If you get a chance at Fournette, you take him. He is going to crush it in the NFL and why would you not want a back who can get 2000 yards from scrimmage as Brees ages?

I know we have other needs. People are saying "Guard." Well, no kidding. But, when everyone here was screaming to draft La'el Collins last year, the same geniuses said that you don't draft a "Guard" in the first round. You can get him high.

I'd love to see the Saints get an All-Pro anything in the first round. We've drafted CBs, DTs, OTs, and all kinds of players in the first round. What did they amount to? Some were great. Most were busts.

We don't have a great RB. If he is there, you take him. Period.
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