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re: The first round pick that was traded for Olave..

Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63701 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

we traded next years 1 + 18 to get 16 and 19

it was pretty clear we wanted a 2nd, 1st in 2022 to move up for a WR. that was the rumor and that's what we did.



This. It wasn't a terrible trade on paper. A first this year is more than a first next year on the market. That our pick will be #10 vs. #19 is a loss in value in a vacuum...but I think the inherent value of this year vs. next year probably close to nets that out. You'll get differing opinions on that but it wasn't unreasonable.

But, we also added a #2 to move from 16 to draft Olave. That was the cost of getting Olave. I think, in hindsight, he was worth that steep price. But, again, we didn't pay over market to make that move, IMO.

Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19626 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 1:08 pm to
Look at Olave's first few games where he had Winston YOLO throwing everything deep. Winston missed him badly for what would have been 3-4 wide open 50-60 yard TDs.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74481 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 1:15 pm to
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What do you consider elite fast?


Olave ran 4.39 (86%tile)
1.5 10 yard split (88%tile)
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291693 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

wasn't a terrible trade on paper



He will never be worth that. Especially when you look at rookie WRs taken after him, Dotson (1.16), Watson (2.34), Pickens (2.52), Pierce 2.53).

The final purse was:

2023 1st
2024 2nd
2022 3rd
2022 3rd
2022 4th
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291693 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:07 pm to
It’s not Olaves fault, they never should have thought that he was a missing piece. They were at a crossroads and didn’t realize it. But it compounds everything again this year, especially if they just continue ti push on. And if they decide to blow it up, it looks just as bad because you pour all of that capital into picking him. It’s a lose-lose and was just a terrible trade for this franchise
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131927 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:09 pm to
I melted about it at the time. It made no sense at all, and makes even less sense now.

Why go all in for a WR, give up a future 1st...when you don't have a QB?

Its just totally bizarre.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179947 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:11 pm to
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when you don't have a QB?


man, all the jameis lovers just hit the delete history button.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131927 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:29 pm to
Maybe I can phrase it better. The saints didn't TRULY believe they had a QB.

They gave him a 2 year contract.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:07 pm to
And also refer back to the Tampa game where Winston hit Olave on what should have been a TD, but he fell and fumbled the ball, which ended the game.
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