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Texans now also granted CSP Interview Permission

Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:46 pm
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Peter Schrager
@PSchrags
The Houston Texans have also requested permission from the New Orleans Saints to speak with Sean Payton, per sources. He cannot formally interview with any team until January 17th.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:47 pm to
If Arizona puts 1.3 on the table.... does that give us leverage to ask for 1.2? No way HOU does that. No way Payton wants that job without a QB of choice.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23711 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:48 pm to
No team with a top 5 pick will give it for Payton. They will look to 2024 for compensation or later round picks.
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:50 pm to
Yeah I agree. But if we are granting permission it’s safe to say the teams know what they need to give to make a trade happen. Seems like a given we’ll get a 1st. Just wonder if we can squeeze anything else out of the team.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

If Arizona puts 1.3 on the table.... does that give us leverage to ask for 1.2? No way HOU does that. No way Payton wants that job without a QB of choice.


Houston also has pick 12. I could see that being more likely than us getting 1.2 or 1.3

Though I honestly cannot imagine Sean wanting to coach the Texans
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

No team with a top 5 pick will give it for Payton. They will look to 2024 for compensation or later round picks.


Arizona may be the exception. They are already committed to Kyler. They dont need a QB and giving him a coach that he can respect will go along way.

If Arizona wants to ruin that by not giving up a top pick which they really dont technically need than by all means. Any other position Arizona wants can be had in other rounds
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13095 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:53 pm to
If we get 1.3, I wouldn't be surprised if we had to send something in return. That's a ton of value for Payton as a straight trade. I'm fine with trading some other pick or picks to get that so we can get Stroud.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131909 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

If Arizona puts 1.3 on the table


not happening

quote:

1.2


definitely not happening
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54205 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:55 pm to
Payton/MT for 1.3/Hopkins????????
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:56 pm to
I mean if its too much then they can go somewhere else. The teams looking for seans services are stacking up.

If they want to go through another Kliff saga thats their call
Posted by jamal
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:57 pm to
Only way we get 1.3 is if we throw in a lot of valuable assets. Don’t see it happening.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179945 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:57 pm to
quote:


not happening


maybe not but i wouldn't be sooo quick to dismiss idea. BUT, getting their 2nd round pick is very valuable if we're going to also get next year's first instead of this year's.

then Arizona could trade down from 1.3 to recoup the loss of picks given up for CSP acquisition.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
16085 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

No team with a top 5 pick will give it for Payton. They will look to 2024 for compensation or later round picks.


While I absolutely agree, they are picking top 5 (often) for a reason. Crazier and dumber things have happened.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291693 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:01 pm to
All of these being put into public is huge for the Saints
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131909 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

The teams looking for seans services are stacking up.


Unfortunately I don't think this gives us that much leverage.

If Sean said "I'm fine with any of these 3 teams, get the best deal you can Saints" sure.

But that isn't what's going to happen. He's going to choose what team he wants to coach, effectively killing any leverage over other teams offers.

The only leverage we have is we can say "we aren't trading you for that" and then another year goes by.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77177 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

I wouldn't be surprised if we had to send something in return


Are we getting botted or influenced by influencers here lately?
Cause this keeps coming up. "If we want a high pick we need to give up something on the deal"
No. We don't. Highest bidder folks.


What is CSP really worth? The 100 million dollar question. Lots want to know or predict.


Answer:
What someone pays.


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131909 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Highest bidder folks.


Nope. Sean has to want to go there. He will sit down with all of the teams, and then he will choose his team. It will be up to the Saints to extract the most from that one team. What other teams are offering at that point is largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Sean, for instance, won't choose the Texans if they are giving up the 2nd pick. He won't be able to choose his QB, or use that to acquire more assets.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19626 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:06 pm to
We should demand 1.2 or 1.3, but knowing Loomis, we will get a 2025 6th with us sending out a 7th
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77177 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:07 pm to
Yes a bit of hyperbole. You are correct.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179945 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Sean, for instance, won't choose the Texans if they are giving up the 2nd pick. He won't be able to choose his QB, or use that to acquire more assets.


With HOU in play, we know damn well 1.12 is the minimum draft value required. Payton will have his team give up fair value or literally go frick your fat face for another 24 months. Not sure his cholesterol would survive.
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